Btw. I wouldn't believe in a single Icaza's word. He's pro MS fanboy who praises MS initiatives (or MS related) like one above or CodePlex and MS OOXML. He's not trustworthy.
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First, learn the existance of idioms http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiom .
Second, you haven't replied to my statement demonstrating the fanboyism that resides in you.
Third, kraftman defines AMD linux friendly. Go study some history from ~2007 and behond.
Fourth, there is nothing wrong in making money out of Linux. Linux is a kernel released under the GNU GPL licence. Nothing more nothing less. If microsoft somehow shares their "work" the only thing you can do is shut up and accept the cooperation, because that is what all gpl fans want, there is no statement in the GPL license about innovation, but freedom. Freedom to use the software for any reason you want, even to clean your back and flush the toilet. Mono is released under the GPL license and this should be the only thing to care of.
Fanboyism is the sick part of the Linux world.
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Originally posted by yesterday View PostMaybe he just disagrees that the absence of God is fortunate...
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Third, kraftman defines AMD linux friendly. Go study some history from ~2007 and behond.
Fourth, there is nothing wrong in making money out of Linux. Linux is a kernel released under the GNU GPL licence. Nothing more nothing less.
If microsoft somehow shares their "work" the only thing you can do is shut up and accept the cooperation, because that is what all gpl fans want, there is no statement in the GPL license about innovation, but freedom. Freedom to use the software for any reason you want, even to clean your back and flush the toilet. Mono is released under the GPL license and this should be the only thing to care of.
Fanboyism is the sick part of the Linux world.Last edited by kraftman; 17 December 2009, 06:24 PM.
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Originally posted by bulletxt View PostFourth, there is nothing wrong in making money out of Linux.
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Your definition of "Linux friendly" is relative. Actually, I'm not sure "Linux friendly" can be defined.
About Linux you said what I said, Linux is a kernel released under the GNU GPL licence (which means you have to know what is a kernel and what is the GPL license).
About Mono:
Computer programming is the process of writing, testing, debugging/troubleshooting, and maintaining the source code of computer programs. (wikipedia).
Now this said, you'll understand that the language used to program is a detail of the process of writing. A shitty C++ software will always be shitty, and a shitty C# software will always be shitty. Now if there is a developer, a smart one, that knows how to write software and only knows C#, would you tell him you don't want his wonderfull app because it's made with a GPL software called Mono?
So the point is, if you don't want GPL software then that's fine. I want all GPL softwares.
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Originally posted by deeceefar2 View PostNotably missing from that is Netflix. I wonder if this increased collaboration will include Netflix and the advanced media streaming required to support it, or if that is still off the table. I want to switch to use boxee with linux not windows.
So I guess the NBC Football and Olympics content the blog post says they are focusing on don't use PlayReady (or any?) DRM. Or they are working to fully support all the non-DRM aspects of those applications.
I just don't believe MS will ever willingly license any of their DRM solutions for general-purpose use on Linux. 'Legal' access to premium content is one of the major advantages they hold over Linux - why in the world would they give that up?
Given this, from an end-user perspective I wonder why anyone cares about Moonlight, and why a whole team at Novell gets paid to spend time developing it. Who uses it? What for?
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Originally posted by bulletxt View PostYour definition of "Linux friendly" is relative. Actually, I'm not sure "Linux friendly" can be defined.
About Linux you said what I said, Linux is a kernel released under the GNU GPL licence (which means you have to know what is a kernel and what is the GPL license).
About Mono:
Computer programming is the process of writing, testing, debugging/troubleshooting, and maintaining the source code of computer programs. (wikipedia).
Now this said, you'll understand that the language used to program is a detail of the process of writing. A shitty C++ software will always be shitty, and a shitty C# software will always be shitty. Now if there is a developer, a smart one, that knows how to write software and only knows C#, would you tell him you don't want his wonderfull app because it's made with a GPL software called Mono?
So the point is, if you don't want GPL software then that's fine. I want all GPL softwares.
Of course, Novell doesn't care because they have a cross-patent agreement with Micrsoft. Miguel himself said that the he has no concerns about Mono patents because Novell are covered. This doesn't cover Ubuntu or Fedora or MyHomeMade distro. Let's say Mono extend their dev base by getting Red Hat and Mandriva to distribute it. They get the benefits of the open source dev methodology, but then 1 year later Microsoft files suits against Ubuntu, Mandriva, and Red Hat for patent infringement. Novell walk away scot free with all the additional developement, because they are covered by their patent agreement.
This is completely against the spirit and purpose of the GPL. If we are allowed to distribute the copyright work, but not allowed to the distribute the "business methodology" that the work is based on, we are essentially not allowed to distribute the work.
That is why GPLv3 included sections that prevents the distribution of code covered by exclusive patent licensing from third parties.
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Season's greetings
Seems Microsoft wants its slaves back. Novell's conduct will make even baby jesus cry.
I wonder why Miguel is wasting his talent on something that will never work. well, maybe now he is just an employee of Novell (and allies).
Does he still have a crush on MS?
I hope rms gets cloned many, many times (we will need em all!)
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Originally posted by bulletxt View PostYour definition of "Linux friendly" is relative. Actually, I'm not sure "Linux friendly" can be defined.
About Linux you said what I said, Linux is a kernel released under the GNU GPL licence (which means you have to know what is a kernel and what is the GPL license).
About Mono:
Computer programming is the process of writing, testing, debugging/troubleshooting, and maintaining the source code of computer programs. (wikipedia).
Now this said, you'll understand that the language used to program is a detail of the process of writing. A shitty C++ software will always be shitty, and a shitty C# software will always be shitty. Now if there is a developer, a smart one, that knows how to write software and only knows C#, would you tell him you don't want his wonderfull app because it's made with a GPL software called Mono?
So the point is, if you don't want GPL software then that's fine. I want all GPL softwares.
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