Wine 1.1.32 Brings Multiple Improvements

[NeoBrain]

But the binary function calls remained the same, right?

Not sure what you mean with "binary function calls", but the core functionality is still same, just that D3D10 provides some API layer system and removed the fixed function pipeline.
Just compare http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...8VS.85%29.aspx with http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...8VS.85%29.aspx ... D3D10 seems to do things on a lower-level approach than D3D9 but it's still the same actually.

[V!NCENT]

Well, the API has changed significantly between D3D9 and D3D10, so I guess the D3D10 guys focus more on implementing all the different interfaces than actually getting things to work (e.g. the effect interface was D3DX-specific prior to D3D10 but is now included in core D3D... Although I think that it moved back to D3DX again in DX11... Same for the shader compiler), yet.

But the binary function calls remained the same, right?

[NeoBrain]

I thought that WineD3D was Direct3D version independant (well, sort of...) and that Direct3D10 support would only require adding some effects and stuff on top of what they already had?

Well, the API has changed significantly between D3D9 and D3D10, so I guess the D3D10 guys focus more on implementing all the different interfaces than actually getting things to work (e.g. the effect interface was D3DX-specific prior to D3D10 but is now included in core D3D... Although I think that it moved back to D3DX again in DX11... Same for the shader compiler), yet.

[V!NCENT]

Not really, unless you define rendering some triangles as useful

I thought that WineD3D was Direct3D version independant (well, sort of...) and that Direct3D10 support would only require adding some effects and stuff on top of what they already had?

[NeoBrain]

Can we already use DirectX 10 to do something useful in Wine?

Not really, unless you define rendering some triangles as useful

[NSLW]

Can we already use DirectX 10 to do something useful in Wine?

[ianmacfarlane]

The list of improvements which were specifically about D3D10 are:

Henri Verbeet

• d3d10: Explicitly handle D3D10_SVC_STRUCT in set_variable_vtbl().

Rico Sch?ller (4):

• d3d10: Implement ID3D10EffectVariable::GetElement().
• d3d10: Implement ID3D10EffectConstantBuffer::GetParentConstantBuffe r().
• d3d10/tests: Add variable member test.
• d3d10/tests: Add ID3D10EffectVariable::GetElement() test.

Also, sometimes fixes in one D3D version will fix bugs in another.

It is a little sloppy saying that there are no improvements at all, especially when the full list of changes is only a click away. There were some fixes, just not so many as to be worth including in the top changes this release.

See the full Wine 1.3.32 shortlog.

[Oricalk]

It's almost like they weren't

Yep, but look Henri's Verbeet patches (the man in charge of directx). Some reffers (search IDirect3D9Ex for example) to bugs with .net frameworks which are very important too. So it justifies a little pause in the dx10 implementation, he can't be everywhere.

[Jimmy]

and AJ didn't mention it in his summary

It's almost like they weren't

specifically mentioned

[sandain]

Phoronix: Wine 1.1.32 Brings Multiple Improvements

Wine 1.1.32 is now out, but unlike Wine 1.1.30 and Wine 1.1.31 there are not any Direct3D 10 improvements specifically mentioned for this release. However, the highlights for Wine 1.1.32 include many crypto fixes (particularly targeted at the 64-bit architecture), improved DVD access on Mac OS X, several improvements to common controls, HTML support improvements, DIB optimizations, and various other bug-fixes.The Wine 1.1.32 release announcement is to be found, as always, at WineHQ.org...

http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=NzYzNA

Odd.. If you look at the shortlog provided at the mentioned link, you see that there were indeed improvements to d3d10. Granted, there wasn't much, and AJ didn't mention it in his summary, but they are definitely there. You might want to read these things a bit more closely before posting these articles.