KDE Plasma 6.3 Bringing A More Consistent Close Button, Other Last Minute Changes

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  • mrg666
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2023
    • 1083

    #31
    Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post

    Moreover, when you ignore the actual desktop and focus on the programs used and offered by the projects, GNOME programs aren't good. They're very bare bones, full of wasted space, and GNOME programs will willy-nilly swap the Accept, Cancel, OK, and Close buttons at random. GTK really went downhill when it transitioned from GIMP Tool Kit into GNOME Tool Kit with all that dumbass Human Interface Design Adwaita Padding everywhere with inconsistent function button locations.

    ""Let's put the main menu next to the close button."
    --Some GNOME Developer"
    --Skeevy420


    GNOME 1 made me a Linux user.
    GNOME 3 made me an XFCE user.
    GTK 3 made me a KDE and Qt user.
    Might be hard to believe but I have never used Gnome other than logging in several Ubuntu or Fedora computers that were not mine. But I have been a KDE user since version 1 on my own systems. The new and advanced QT toolkit was what attracted me to KDE at the time and it still is. Before KDE, I was using fvwm and blackbox. The current state of Plasma is like a dream came true nowadays when I remember the time Linux DE's were so behind other operating systems. I don't want to touch any other OS now, lucky me

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    • DumbFsck
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2023
      • 333

      #32
      Originally posted by sophisticles View Post

      What?!?

      Ubuntu is a Linux based OS while KDE is a desktop environment.

      Your statement is nonsense.

      It's like saying after driving a Mustang for a while I was surprised at how inferior it was to the 5.0L V8.
      Congrats on your top tier reading comprehension. If the guy said "I changed from Ubuntu to Kubuntu [...]" Would you have gotten it?

      Or do you think everyone that wants to share their experiences must take a few classes to fully understand what a display manager is, a compositor, layouting engine, widget framework, shell, desktop and finally desktop enviroent are all before making their first post?


      Or is it just that you can't see that other people are able to understand what you can't?

      As time passes you're becoming a worse and worse troll. Weak baits, etc.

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      • bug77
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2009
        • 6517

        #33
        Originally posted by mrg666 View Post

        I have seen no Plasma crashes in a long time either.

        There has been so many KDE news on this site lately and all of them attracted a lot of comments. Not all comments were highly useful and intelligent (maybe just like I do now), but it shows how an active project is KDE and how much people are paying attention. Plasma has become so consistent, clean, and complete in the UI design. I am thinking Plasma will become the default DE in majority of distributions in the near future.
        I mean, consider what went on over the last (not so) few years: break up KDE SC into Frameworks+Plasma+Apps (and create many, many smaller modules to underpin all that), keep up with Qt4/5/6 (luckily 5->6 was meant to be non-disruptive and it was, but no such luck with 4->5). All the while initially ignoring and later trying to support an underbaked Wayland.
        That's infinitely harder to do if you can't cop out like another DE (which shall remain unnamed) and just drop features/settings claiming users don't need them.

        sophisticles doesn't stop being amazed seemingly at each and every bug. But I have been using KDE all these years on the supposedly nightmarish Nvidia hardware. I've had my complaints, raised a few bugs. But I was able to use it. And enjoy it.

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        • bug77
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2009
          • 6517

          #34
          Originally posted by mrg666 View Post

          Might be hard to believe but I have never used Gnome other than logging in several Ubuntu or Fedora computers that were not mine. But I have been a KDE user since version 1 on my own systems. The new and advanced QT toolkit was what attracted me to KDE at the time and it still is. Before KDE, I was using fvwm and blackbox. The current state of Plasma is like a dream came true nowadays when I remember the time Linux DE's were so behind other operating systems. I don't want to touch any other OS now, lucky me
          I've been using Gnome2. It was good. Felt like a more barebones KDE, but I would get things done. Gnome3 just feels unnatural to me.

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          • mrg666
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2023
            • 1083

            #35
            Originally posted by bug77 View Post

            I've been using Gnome2. It was good. Felt like a more barebones KDE, but I would get things done. Gnome3 just feels unnatural to me.
            It has been ages since Gnome 3 was released with their new UI concept. Good or bad I am not commenting since I don't use. Choose something that you prefer ... like now!

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            • skeevy420
              Senior Member
              • May 2017
              • 8650

              #36
              Originally posted by mrg666 View Post

              Might be hard to believe but I have never used Gnome other than logging in several Ubuntu or Fedora computers that were not mine. But I have been a KDE user since version 1 on my own systems. The new and advanced QT toolkit was what attracted me to KDE at the time and it still is. Before KDE, I was using fvwm and blackbox. The current state of Plasma is like a dream came true nowadays when I remember the time Linux DE's were so behind other operating systems. I don't want to touch any other OS now, lucky me
              I can believe it. The first time I used KDE it was version 3 or 4 during my GNOME 3 exodus and I found it overwhelming with all the choices it had. GNOME 1, 2, and XFCE were bare bones in comparison. It wasn't until Plasma 5.6, 5.4, around that time, that the things that KDE offered really clicked with me. Now everything else feels too constricted and limited. With everything that Plasma does I don't understand why anyone would want to use anything different.

              Remembering that overwhelmed with all the choices feeling is why I've been critical of all the KDE text editors, terminals, and other parts of their app ecosystem that overlap with each other lately. I think "How would new user me have responded to all of this?" and I'd have gone "Fuck me running that's a lot of stuff." and possibly went to something like XFCE, Mate, or Cinnamon that seems more cohesive due to having a less is more approach . . . unlike GNOME's less is less approach.

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              • mrg666
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2023
                • 1083

                #37
                Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post

                I can believe it. The first time I used KDE it was version 3 or 4 during my GNOME 3 exodus and I found it overwhelming with all the choices it had. GNOME 1, 2, and XFCE were bare bones in comparison. It wasn't until Plasma 5.6, 5.4, around that time, that the things that KDE offered really clicked with me. Now everything else feels too constricted and limited. With everything that Plasma does I don't understand why anyone would want to use anything different.

                Remembering that overwhelmed with all the choices feeling is why I've been critical of all the KDE text editors, terminals, and other parts of their app ecosystem that overlap with each other lately. I think "How would new user me have responded to all of this?" and I'd have gone "Fuck me running that's a lot of stuff." and possibly went to something like XFCE, Mate, or Cinnamon that seems more cohesive due to having a less is more approach . . . unlike GNOME's less is less approach.
                Overlap is good in my opinion ... and it is unavoidable as this is an open project. The overlapping parts can be new grounds for growing new ideas. Either the ideas are transferred or the whole app is replaced. That happened so many times in the past. Plus, every person has different preferences, it is good to have options.

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                • ResponseWriter
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2016
                  • 367

                  #38
                  Originally posted by mrg666 View Post

                  I have seen no Plasma crashes in a long time either.
                  I hadn't for a long time, then today tried to add the audio widget to my desktop (wanted an easy way to switch outputs) and it crashed. The widget management stuff in general needs some improvement as it seems to freeze Plasma and the "Get New Widgets" window freezes a lot.

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                  • sophisticles
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2015
                    • 2591

                    #39
                    Originally posted by DumbFsck View Post
                    Congrats on your top tier reading comprehension. If the guy said "I changed from Ubuntu to Kubuntu [...]" Would you have gotten it?

                    Or do you think everyone that wants to share their experiences must take a few classes to fully understand what a display manager is, a compositor, layouting engine, widget framework, shell, desktop and finally desktop enviroent are all before making their first post?


                    Or is it just that you can't see that other people are able to understand what you can't?

                    As time passes you're becoming a worse and worse troll. Weak baits, etc.
                    Reread what he said and pay note that he felt the need to change his comment to reflect that he was talking about Gnome vs KDE.

                    His phrasing was atrocious as is you trying to stand up for him.

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                    • Nth_man
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 1038

                      #40
                      Originally posted by bug77 View Post

                      Out of curiosity, I'm on Nvidia. You?
                      Using Intel.

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