Flatpak XDG-Desktop-Portal 1.19.1 Brings USB Portal & Notification v2 Portal

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  • phoronix
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    • Jan 2007
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    Flatpak XDG-Desktop-Portal 1.19.1 Brings USB Portal & Notification v2 Portal

    Phoronix: Flatpak XDG-Desktop-Portal 1.19.1 Brings USB Portal & Notification v2 Portal

    Debuting as a new development release today was XDG-Desktop-Portal 1.19.1 as this portal front-end service for Flatpak sandboxed apps and other desktop containment frameworks. The XDG-Desktop-Portal 1.19.1 milestone is exposing new and expanded portal capabilities for dealing with various hardware devices and APIs...

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  • MadWatch
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2013
    • 35

    #2
    And when will application developers start using Flatpak and finally give up on PPA?

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    • Daktyl198
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2013
      • 1588

      #3
      Portals are a hack and far too limiting in most cases as they're purposely designed for security first. It's annoying that Wayland development is so slow that desktops have adopted portals as a way to do certain things outside of flatpaks because it's only making the desktop worse.

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      • mxan
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2022
        • 291

        #4
        So when's GNOME gonna finally get around to implementing global shortcuts so apps like Discord can have push-to-talk again?

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        • mxan
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2022
          • 291

          #5
          Originally posted by Daktyl198 View Post
          Portals are a hack and far too limiting in most cases as they're purposely designed for security first. It's annoying that Wayland development is so slow that desktops have adopted portals as a way to do certain things outside of flatpaks because it's only making the desktop worse.
          Portals aren't a "hack" at all, what are you on about? By that same logic, is Pipewire also a hack?
          The entire point of Wayland was to take things out of the display server that are better done elsewhere

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          • Quackdoc
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2020
            • 5106

            #6
            do we have a sane way of requesting permissions yet?

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            • ahrs
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2021
              • 587

              #7
              Originally posted by MadWatch View Post
              And when will application developers start using Flatpak and finally give up on PPA?
              It's already happened in many cases. A PPA only works on very specific versions of Ubuntu that they were built for but the universal nature of Flatpak makes them much better. Debian, for example, recommends against adding random Ubuntu PPAs for this reason (they can work in some cases but it's not guaranteed and you do so at your own risk) and although they don't specifically endorse Flatpak it doesn't have these issues.

              To developers that still only offer a PPA and no Flatpak the question I would pose to them is "Why?".

              Lack of demand?
              Lack of education (the tooling for building Flatpaks is not the best, there is a learning curve. If Flatpak builder had a PKGBUILD-like format as an alternative to JSON or YAML I think it would help. There are advantages to the JSON and YAML formats but it makes it harder for developers and packagers to pick up on a whim)?
              Flatpak missing functionality for your app?
              Last edited by ahrs; 22 December 2024, 12:12 AM.

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              • Myownfriend
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2021
                • 1045

                #8
                Originally posted by Daktyl198 View Post
                Portals are a hack and far too limiting in most cases as they're purposely designed for security first. It's annoying that Wayland development is so slow that desktops have adopted portals as a way to do certain things outside of flatpaks because it's only making the desktop worse.
                This is has nothing to do with Wayland lol It's amazing how so many people just see Wayland as the vague thing that they don't like lol

                Also how are portals a "hack"? What would be a proper solution to what they do?

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                • Myownfriend
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2021
                  • 1045

                  #9
                  Originally posted by mxan View Post
                  So when's GNOME gonna finally get around to implementing global shortcuts so apps like Discord can have push-to-talk again?


                  Looks like they're starting.

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                  • emblemparade
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2014
                    • 405

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Quackdoc View Post
                    do we have a sane way of requesting permissions yet?
                    Until we do, Flatseal is nice for managing permissions.

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