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  • Quackdoc
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    Originally posted by MillionToOne View Post
    If Mozilla hadn't abandoned Servo we'd probably have a usable Servo based browser now.
    prolly, folks who are working on it doing some great work.

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  • MillionToOne
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    If Mozilla hadn't abandoned Servo we'd probably have a usable Servo based browser now.

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  • Quackdoc
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    Originally posted by NeoMorpheus View Post

    Try the dailymail and nypost sites. See if it survives the onslaught of ads. :-)
    nypost actually works mostly due to the JS needed to load the ads not working, but after some time, I did get a crash, dailymail works about as expected again, minus the ads, but I didnt have video enabled on my build, and the carosel doesn't work

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  • M.Bahr
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    Still waiting for a switch to vulkan and/or WebGPU in regular firefox. It is about time to say goodbye to OpenGL for the sake of performance.

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  • Quackdoc
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    A user in the servo zulip posted this for tracking CSS features https://blog.chosenconcept.dev/AreWe...t/metrics/css/

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  • NeoMorpheus
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    Originally posted by Quackdoc View Post
    the vast majority of websites layout "mostly right" now, at least to the extent of "usability". If anyone has some specific sites they want me to check let me know, javascript heavy stuff still doesn't really work, flutter apps don't seem to work for example, neither does discord egui, slint stuff etc. A LOT of stuff uses shakaplayer which doesn't seem to work which is sad.

    things that rely mostly on css however do, safetwitch for instance actually works more or less fine tho chatbox and stuff fails to load, video is fine too. Codeberg works, tho icons are missing and stuff.
    Try the dailymail and nypost sites. See if it survives the onslaught of ads. :-)

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  • Old Grouch
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    https://european-union.europa.eu/index_en
    Originally posted by Quackdoc View Post

    https://soylentnews.org Worked, image in gallery, not perfect, but good enough to be usable
    https://beta.rejseplanen.dk/en Did not work, had issues with js freezing
    https://reise.ruter.no/en issues with shadow dom, WIP
    https://tfl.gov.uk/ The site loads, but locks up servo when some js stuff seems to be loading

    you can see how servo rendered them here https://catbox.moe/c/n4uvjl#gallery-1​
    Thank you for that - SoylentNews is unusual because the users and people who run it have made a conscious decision to not use javascipt (with the necessary exception of the payment service). As such, it's probably a reasonable check that your CSS handling is not completely broken. I'm sure there are other sites dedicated to generated CSS edge cases for test purposes.

    As for the others, they are the kind of sites that people will use every day as part of background infrastructure. There's probably one per city/country. In theory the site operators will be making sure that they work on as wide a range of browsers as possible. Of course, if the cost of doing so is greater than the profit from the revenue of people using 'unusual' browsers, then testing and accommodation will not be done for those browsers. Which is why government sites ought be the most forgiving in terms of accessibility by rare browsers - e.g. Lynx for the sight impaired.

    Other travel-planning sites: https://int.bahn.de/en/ ; https://frenchrails.com/en

    Other 'interesting' sites are weather services

    Norwegian: https://www.yr.no/en
    Danish: https://www.dmi.dk/ No English version offered
    Swedish: https://www.smhi.se/en/q/Stockholm/2673730
    British: https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/
    Irish: https://www.met.ie/
    French: https://meteofrance.com/ No English version offered
    German: https://www.dwd.de/EN/Home/home_node.html

    And the EU official web pages, being available across multiple countries, ought to be reasonably accessible to unusual browsers.
    Discover how the EU functions, its principles, priorities; find out about its history and member states; learn about its legal basis and your EU rights.


    I don't expect you to test all of these - they are merely suggestions of the kind of sites that ought to work. They are probably all very javascript-heavy.

    The authentication sites for various Scandinavian services ought to work as well:

    Denmark: MitID - https://www.mitid.dk/en-gb/ - hit the 'Log On' button
    Norway: BankID - https://bankid.no/test-signering - hit 'GĂ„ til test'
    Sweden: BankID - https://www.bankid.com/demo

    If your browser doesn't work with these sites, it prevents it from being people's default browser in the relevant country, because they are used for authenticating pretty much everything. It should 'just work'. There are equivalent government services in many other countries, like, for example, Estonia: https://www.id.ee/en/article/configu...using-id-card/ which appears to require browser extension to work.

    (This comment contains many links, which will trigger the Phoronix anti-SPAM/UCE filter. It might take a while to be approved for publication, or might never get approved.)

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  • Kjell
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    Screenshot shared by Servo appears to have default Sway WM titlebar styling (most sane people disable it )

    Looking forward to testing Servo in the future

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  • Quackdoc
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    Originally posted by Old Grouch View Post

    Try https://soylentnews.org - it should be pure CSS (no javascript, except for the subscription page where javascript is required for 3rd-party payment service). The comments pages on articles have no javascript, for example.

    If you want to try a site that is meant to be useful, but is rather script heavy, the beta-version of the Danish travel-planner might be worth a try:

    https://beta.rejseplanen.dk/en - scripts served from (mostly) rkrp.hafas.cloud

    Norway has a similar travel-planner: https://reise.ruter.no/en

    London's travel-planner is here: https://tfl.gov.uk/


    I offer the travel-planners as examples as they are the kind of sites that people to expect to 'just work'. Various government and banking websites should 'just work' as well, but many don't.
    https://soylentnews.org Worked, image in gallery, not perfect, but good enough to be usable
    https://beta.rejseplanen.dk/en Did not work, had issues with js freezing
    https://reise.ruter.no/en issues with shadow dom, WIP
    https://tfl.gov.uk/ The site loads, but locks up servo when some js stuff seems to be loading

    you can see how servo rendered them here https://catbox.moe/c/n4uvjl#gallery-1​

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  • Old Grouch
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    Originally posted by Quackdoc View Post
    If anyone has some specific sites they want me to check let me know, javascript heavy stuff still doesn't really work, flutter apps don't seem to work for example, neither does discord egui, slint stuff etc. A LOT of stuff uses shakaplayer which doesn't seem to work which is sad.

    things that rely mostly on css however do, safetwitch for instance actually works more or less fine tho chatbox and stuff fails to load, video is fine too. Codeberg works, tho icons are missing and stuff.
    Try https://soylentnews.org - it should be pure CSS (no javascript, except for the subscription page where javascript is required for 3rd-party payment service). The comments pages on articles have no javascript, for example.

    If you want to try a site that is meant to be useful, but is rather script heavy, the beta-version of the Danish travel-planner might be worth a try:

    https://beta.rejseplanen.dk/en - scripts served from (mostly) rkrp.hafas.cloud

    Norway has a similar travel-planner: https://reise.ruter.no/en

    London's travel-planner is here: https://tfl.gov.uk/


    I offer the travel-planners as examples as they are the kind of sites that people to expect to 'just work'. Various government and banking websites should 'just work' as well, but many don't.
    Last edited by Old Grouch; 10 December 2024, 08:21 AM. Reason: Move closing URL tag to correct place.

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