Wine 10.0-rc1 Released With Updated VKD3D, Initial Bluetooth Driver

[Quackdoc]

Yes, bug tracker is not usable. I have bug with newer wine from wine 5. Newer version of wine/crossover 23,24 broke 32bit ms office 2010 installation which have good working solver in excel. From 2013 is solver not working with wine or crossover.

agreed, the bugzilla is horrid this actively prevents me from reporting numerous bugs

[mirmirmir]

I cannot express in words how much I hated this on my phone

it's actually easy even in words, and it's easier in a picture, this is you right now

[avis]

Yes, bug tracker is not usable. I have bug with newer wine from wine 5. Newer version of wine/crossover 23,24 broke 32bit ms office 2010 installation which had good working solver in excel. From ms office 2013 is solver not working with wine or crossover. Do would be nice check always compatibility with the ms office 2010 in new version of wine and crossover.

Wine's bug tracker is working exactly as intended.

Maybe you don't understand how Wine is being developed. It's an open source project only in its spirit.

In reality it's a product from CodeWeavers for their paying clients. Bugs are normally being addressed when 1) they affect CodeWeavers' clients 2) they are critical for all their users.

Otherwise there's a high chance no one will ever pay attention to your bug reports.

This is not a charity. Open Source is not a charity. Programmers actually need to feed themselves and their families. For some reasons the vast majority of Linux users firmly believe people must work for them for free. I'm not sure how that can work but Linux users have never made it clear either.

[Old Grouch]

For some reasons the vast majority of Linux users firmly believe people must work for them for free.

Good quality bug reports have value, especially if they are relevant to, as you point out, paying customers. Obviously, you can't buy food with bug reports, but they act as a method for quality improvement, possibly improving the value of your product if and when they are resolved.

A problem with FLOSS is that there is no clear path connecting the benefit that people gain by using it to the costs of developing and maintaining it.

[Vistaus]

In a little over a year we should see Wine 11.0 being released if they continue as is. I wonder which will be out first Windows 12 or Wine 12.0

Maybe then people will finally start using Wine?

For those that don't get the joke: there are some people here/within the tech community that are like “if it's not at least version xyz, it's not mature enough to be used”.

[rmfx]

The bug tracker is a mess,
their website is a mess.
their compatibility database is a mess,
their doc is a mess.

They should spend some money to completely revamp their online services, because this is just plain ridiculous.

[Weasel]

The bug tracker is a mess,
their website is a mess.
their compatibility database is a mess,
their doc is a mess.

They should spend some money to completely revamp their online services, because this is just plain ridiculous.

Skill issue.

Totally fine for me.

[the-burrito-triangle]

Wine's bug tracker is annoying to use when uploading files, but otherwise is passable. Getting someone willing to bisect a bug is hit or miss, but I've had okay support for bugs I've recently submitted. Though the "fix" was almost as bad as the original bug: The XP style radio button (using "no theme" instead of "light") is still distorted, but in a way that the Wine dev felt "looks fine to me". Wine's internal refactoring work and CI does not account for many basic things like the GUI breaking... Which I find weird. And they do not usually accept outside patches. Unless you are a "chosen one" from CodeWeavers/Valve or legacy contributor from Wine you will likely be ignored. Or you will get unhelpful comments that state what you did wrong, but not how you might fix/adjust them so they are acceptable. Outside patches can sit without even a comment for years. The FOSS development cycle for larger projects is an alien and often discriminatory environment that does not embody the "patches are welcome" principle. Now, small projects, especially ones on Github or GitLab have been a great experience for me to contribute to. But large projects have seemingly antisocial developers (GNOME for example, and to some extent Wine). I honestly think Wine is made primarily for games, and if it just so happens to run other SW then great, but its a low priority.