LibreOffice 25.2 Alpha 1 Open-Source Office Suite Released

[ojsl1]

Did you seriously early bird the thread just to say you prefer closed-source spyware because "open-source is old and ugly"?

Haha "early bird" i see what you did there

[finalzone]

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LibreOffice is old, outdated, ugly and not user-friendly.

Challenge accepted. See screenshot showing modern Libre Office Writer with GroupBar User Interface (similar to Microsoft Ribbons) and Sifr (SVG) icons.
At least the ability to select an user interface for different needs serves its purpose.

[sophisticles]

Did you seriously early bird the thread just to say you prefer closed-source spyware because "open-source is old and ugly"?

Please share, which closed source office suite spies on you, in what manner and how do you know?

[sophisticles]

It's a fucking spreadsheet. You want it to be shinier or something? Play your favourite song when you open it?

Actually it's an office suite.

[mirmirmir]

Yep. I'll upvote boring and bland and cleanly usefully useable over all the colourful proprietary bling and whizz-dang obfuscation!

... The whole emphasis should be on easily getting to good clear output rather than swimming through some enigmatic 'experience'.

Enjoy good clean clear Free Libre unencumbered results!


And be Excellent to one another,
Martin

I rarely use office suite. I needed to use it once. And it's surprisingly easy to use. They put what I need in corresponding tab with high visibility without sacrificing ux. Note that I'm not a fan of ribbon interface. I got rid of it in my software I usually use and replace it with minimalistic interface bcoz I use shortcuts anyway. But that kind of workflow doesn't work with office. At least that's what I think as someone who rarely use office.

In contrast, it's difficult to find what I need in libreoffice. Do you expect me to find in a long list of text or uncategorised icons to find the option I want to use? I don't have time to make an efficient habit on software that isn't even efficient unlike what some people claim here. Like workflow that can be reduced like in the office. Or redundancy of putting multiple buttons with the same functionality.

[Daktyl198]

LibreOffice installer: 350 MB, full install size: 800 MB
MS Office 365 installer: 1.8 GB, min install size: 3 GB, older versions ~7 GB
rmfx: "LO is super heavy on the disk"

Microsoft Office does 1000x the things that LibreOffice does. That's not even remotely a close comparison. I like LO, but I'll be honest... if I don't need the features of Microsoft Office then Google Docs or Office Online work just fine.

[Quackdoc]

No thanks!

I'll use Google Docs, I'll use Microsoft Office 365, I'll write my documents in Markdown or LaTeX, I'll give OnlyOffice a try, but I've given up on LibreOffice.

LibreOffice is old, outdated, ugly and not user-friendly.

I remember that an employee had pushed libreoffice at a place I did contract work with for a bit, small business, only 5-6 people working on them daily. It was slow season so getting the hit to productivity wasn't bad. I was surprised to learn that they unanimously hated libreoffice. I don't remember all the reasons they had cited for it. Still ocassionally talk with the guy I was working with, last time I talked they had mentioned onlyoffice. apparently it's a lot better but has crippling perf issues with large sheets. but this was around half a year ago.

I personally use onlyoffice, but never for anything big. I do like how it uses QT for the backend so my env vars work. I hate how much of a slog it is to build enough so that I wound up killing the build. Don't like how it pulls GTK but it fails to run if you don't have it, I think it was for some theme integration? Either way it's annoying, so I just use an appimage to avoid pulling in gtk for it.

[DudeBro]

Please share, which closed source office suite spies on you, in what manner and how do you know?

https://www.bsi.bund.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/BSI/Publikationen/Studien/Office_Telemetrie/Office_Telemetrie.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=1

[oiaohm]

I don't get it, this software is barely different from 20 years ago when it was called OpenOffice dot org, and it's super heavy on the disk for what it does (like how?).

https://www.openoffice.org/

OpenOffice is still around. Yes installing both will fairly quickly start having you work out how much has changed in 10 years.

https://www.libreoffice.org/discover/libreoffice-vs-openoffice/

Yes openoffice basically feature froze 10 years ago.

There has been a lot of back-end work over the 10 years libreoffice supports writing openxml files that the openoffice does not. Libreoffice supports bigger calc/execl documents. Libreoffice calc processing is faster than Openoffice.

What libreoffice does that is unique is does explain a lot of install size is that it open more document formats than any other office suite can open. Yes libreoffice writer can open formats that there is not a direct converter to Latex.

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Feature_Comparison:_LibreOffice_-_Microsoft_Office

This above is only done between Libreoffice and Microsoft Office but there is a lot there that is Lbireoffice only that not in Openoffice of 10 years ago let alone 20.

Libreoffice has had a lot of backend improvements.

In some ways Libreoffice is like over grown swiss army style pocket knife.

[the-burrito-triangle]

Challenge accepted. See screenshot showing modern Libre Office Writer with GroupBar User Interface (similar to Microsoft Ribbons) and Sifr (SVG) icons.
At least the ability to select an user interface for different needs serves its purpose.

Have you ever tried to use the equation editor in LibreOffice? It's horrible. Should I use LaTeX instead? Probably. But sometimes I'd like to add pretty math to simple documents and LibreOffice sucks ass at doing that compared to literally any other word-processor. And there are a thousand other paper-cuts that make it the absolute worst choice out of all the free "community edition" / "free" office products currently available.