LibreOffice 25.2 Alpha 1 Open-Source Office Suite Released

[DudeBro]

It's still a good thing to have the menus and the UI around the spreadsheet that feel like it's 2024, and not 2002.

A video player mainly displays the video it plays, that doesn't mean that nobody care about its UI...

well, mpc hc and vlc also look like 20 years old software. that is why i use them. It is functional and efficient.
Foobar 2000 would be another example. And LibreOffice is another one

at least from my social bubble most people prefer that look caust it works faster when you are used to it

[ultimA]

Yes, I've tried LibreOffice, time after time, year after year, and it just looks more bleak every time I try it, it looks stuck in the past. Yes, its just like it was back in the days of OpenOffice dot org, there have been no noticeable progress.

LO has made tons of progress. Only the UI is somewhat outdated at this point, but I don't think shininess is among the important factors when judging the quality/progress/worth of an office suit.

[ultimA]

I don't get it, this software is barely different from 20 years ago when it was called OpenOffice dot org, and it's super heavy on the disk for what it does (like how?).

LibreOffice installer: 350 MB, full install size: 800 MB
MS Office 365 installer: 1.8 GB, min install size: 3 GB, older versions ~7 GB
rmfx: "LO is super heavy on the disk"

[acobar]

Calc supports the subset of vba that does what I need, and even prefer LibreOffice to MS Office, as I can transfer my files from Windows Machines to Linux ones without too much hassle.

I find it funny that people concentrate their criticisms towards time tested interfaces, just because they think it is ugly. Well, for Office, Graphics, and many other apps, I prefer functionalities + discovery, instead of dumbed down interfaces, which presents just the very basic and severely lack features.

I also find it funny that, somehow, they think their preferences for simplicity and their own, subjective, taste, has some kind of value above about others needs.

Don't like it, and use some alternatives? Fine, don't complain about things you don't see use for, the world will still be round and moving, and you didn't annoy, nor dispirited the work done by someone else that helps many others.

I remember a sentence coined by a musician that said, more or less, this: "some critics take note of problems on work done by others, as a way to not repeat what they see as mistakes, on a work they will never do".

[rmfx]

LibreOffice installer: 350 MB, full install size: 800 MB
MS Office 365 installer: 1.8 GB, min install size: 3 GB, older versions ~7 GB
rmfx: "LO is super heavy on the disk"

I don't care about Windows crap bloatware, they are not my reference.
I just know that to code a text processor and spreadsheets, you certainly do not need 800 000 000 Bytes to achieve that.
How can it be heavier than some full distros even ? They store 2000 LO impress templates in BMP format, instead of svg ??
That type of softwares should be well under 100MB if coded properly. Maybe they can ask Godot devs how to code efficient.

[Old Grouch]

It's still a good thing to have the menus and the UI around the spreadsheet that feel like it's 2024, and not 2002.

Why?

What major discovery in User Interface effectiveness happened in that period? I know there have been major changes, but that is not what I'm asking. What major change in the WIMP interface happened that is backed by ergonomic research?

[Old Grouch]

I don't care about Windows crap bloatware, they are not my reference.
I just know that to code a text processor and spreadsheets, you certainly do not need 800 000 000 Bytes to achieve that.
How can it be heavier than some full distros even ? They store 2000 LO impress templates in BMP format, instead of svg ??
That type of softwares should be well under 100MB if coded properley.

LO would agree with you that you certainly do not need 800 000 000 Bytes to code a text processor and spreadsheet: the installer includes a drawing application, a presentation application, and a database as well.

How many text processing applications and spreadsheet applications have you coded?

You could try comparing with gnumeric and Abiword, for example.

[JEBjames]

Michael

Typo

"aare download links" should be "are"

[Volta]

No thanks!

I'll use Google Docs, I'll use Microsoft Office 365, I'll write my documents in Markdown or LaTeX, I'll give OnlyOffice a try, but I've given up on LibreOffice.

LibreOffice is old, outdated, ugly and not user-friendly.

What a joke. LibreOffice is the only usable office suite. The ones you have mentioned are unusable utter crap.

[elml]

Yep. I'll upvote boring and bland and cleanly usefully useable over all the colourful proprietary bling and whizz-dang obfuscation!

... The whole emphasis should be on easily getting to good clear output rather than swimming through some enigmatic 'experience'.

Enjoy good clean clear Free Libre unencumbered results!


And be Excellent to one another,
Martin