Wine 9.22 Enables Wayland Driver By Default

[Britoid]

Not this time:

https://wayland.app/protocols/input-method-unstable-v2

https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/112

They can still beat GNOME to the punch though.

Beating GNOME at supporting Wayland protocols isn't a high bar.

[ernstp]

I'm usually in the bleeding edge but I haven't actually tried Wine Wayland yet. Sounds like it will be easier now!

[skeevy420]

I wonder, how does Wine Wayland handle scaling?

I can only answer this in the context of gaming and things like Winecfg, but seems like 96 DPI appears the same as a native program scaled down to 1080p. I have to increase my DPI from 96 to 144 on my 3440x1440 monitor to make full screen games fit the whole screen and to increase font sizes in regular apps to something that is both readable and looks correct.

[Quackdoc]

tangentally related, Does anyone have any idea on how to maintain aspect ratios of games on tiling compositors *without* gamescope? assuming the compositor itself doesn't do so?

[hf_139]

Whenever someone enables Wayland per Default the first time, it's very very unstable.
And when you point out that it isn't ready yet, they throw the argument at you, that they have to release it while it is buggy, in order to make it stable later.
Which is really weird and something that i only ever saw with Walyand.

Recently i played minecraft (not wine, its glfw on Java) and everything was buggy and the pointer jumped around randomly and it kept crashing... i wondered wtf is going on.. till i discovered that it started to default to wayland.
And that is one example out of many.

[hf_139]

tangentally related, Does anyone have any idea on how to maintain aspect ratios of games on tiling compositors *without* gamescope? assuming the compositor itself doesn't do so?

Get used to gamescope.
It is how it is done in the wayland world. Basically, an application should never change resolution or aspect ratio, because that is insecure.
If the application is running on a different ratio or resolution, it has to itself scale and adjust accordingly.
An application not doing that, is "legacy" and "outdated". For those we have gamescope as a compatibility layer.

[Quackdoc]

Get used to gamescope.
It is how it is done in the wayland world. Basically, an application should never change resolution or aspect ratio, because that is insecure.
If the application is running on a different ratio or resolution, it has to itself scale and adjust accordingly.
An application not doing that, is "legacy" and "outdated". For those we have gamescope as a compatibility layer.

gamescope breaks too much, not usable.

[shmerl]

Finally progress on this... but what exactly do they have so far? Just an equivalent to the "create a window and lie about it being a fullscreen resolution" LD_PRELOAD I wanted to write for SDL or do they also have that GPU scaling support I hear Proton uses for fullscreen display?

They seem to scale it and position it on the left with transparent band left on the right (if aspect ratio doesn't match monitor's). Not ideal. I filed a bug about it.

[ilgazcl]

Birdie: "We need to copy bad design to enable applications written for this bad design to run".
Birdie also: "REEEEEEEEEEEEE WAYLAND REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

You can always fall back to the bad design display server if it is required to fully support the bad design window mapping

Do you remember the purpose of WINE? It is to run Windows applications under Linux. It doesn't matter how modern/old/junk like application it is, the main reason for anyone to install/run WINE is to run it in acceptable performance.

Ideally, the whole World should give up Adobe junk (which I subscribed) and donate billions to open source solutions however, it is not the case now. Joking with strangers about a freaking graphic subsystem is childish.

ps: I purchase Intel based GPU/hardware just for flawless wayland experience and my desktop is wayland for years.

[TheMightyBuzzard]

Do you remember the purpose of WINE? It is to run Windows applications under Linux. It doesn't matter how modern/old/junk like application it is, the main reason for anyone to install/run WINE is to run it in acceptable performance.

Ideally, the whole World should give up Adobe junk (which I subscribed) and donate billions to open source solutions however, it is not the case now. Joking with strangers about a freaking graphic subsystem is childish.

ps: I purchase Intel based GPU/hardware just for flawless wayland experience and my desktop is wayland for years.

I haven't moved to Wayland myself yet. Partially for all the reasons mentioned here so far but also because there is zero reason for me to. It offers me nothing since I don't code GUI things very often and it doesn't offer anything whatsoever to anyone who isn't a GUI coder. I mean, I'm glad there are folks out there to do the beta testing. I'm also extremely glad I don't feel obliged to be one any more.