Wine 9.22 Enables Wayland Driver By Default

[avis]

Okay, but that's not because of relative positioning. It's obviously a bug in the driver. Presumably this is why they didn't enable it by default yet.

A bug? How can you enable a feature which is outside the scope of the Wayland protocol? Wine developers have clearly said dragging WinAMP by its title will not work under Wayland. And that's not the only Windows/Xorg feature that will be missing. Global shortcuts support for Windows/Wine applications? Again, will not work.

Keep eating shit, just stop trying to convince others that it's tasty.

And if you don't need it, doesn't mean no one else needs it. I know Linux fans love to wear a crown and think the world revolves around them, but sadly the opposite is true: Linux is an absolutely marginal OS, the vast majority of people don't even know it exists.

People need to get shit done. Not pray to a new "modern" graphics stack. It's not modern. It's ugly, incomplete and limited as hell. It was created for kiosks running a single full screen application.

[skeevy420]

Michael Apparently forum filter words won't magically get a pass when trying to use Beetlejuice rules...

[pinguinpc]

It enabled is by default, but it won't USE it by default. If XWayland is active (which it usually is), then that will still have precedence. If XWayland is not running however, then will it run as a native Wayland app.

This must be added to main article

Only now, when more people will have easier access to it, real testing will begin.

This will be interesting in next year, waiting for 2025 progress maybe wine 11 offer better wayland experience

As positive as all of that sounds, I've had a lot of annoying input issues when using Wine on Wayland.

I can't even get past the main menu in Elden Ring with my PS5 controller or 8bitdo Pro 2. When you have a game like No Man's Sky where all the stars align and everything Just Works™ it's pretty great.

Sadly input issues stay present in both X and Wayland (some bugs appear in only in X or only in Wayland or other cases in both)

https://bugs.winehq.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=wayland&list_id=833017

[TheMightyBuzzard]

Linux is an absolutely marginal OS, the vast majority of people don't even know it exists.

The rest of your stuff was pretty dead on but this bit? Not telling anything near the whole story. They may not know it exists but they'd completely lose their shit if it suddenly went away and most websites, phones, and televisions suddenly quit working.

[avis]

The rest of your stuff was pretty dead on but this bit? Not telling anything near the whole story. They may not know it exists but they'd completely lose their shit if it suddenly went away and most websites, phones, and televisions suddenly quit working.

Linux on servers and the Linux kernel in Android are both not Linux on desktop.

Android has completely different userspace and the Linux kernel in it is replaceable.

Linux servers have no GUI.

Calling them Linux just because they contain the Linux kernel? Well, OK, hope it will make your desktop Linux distro work better.

When I use the word Linux, I mean "Linux distros".

[skeevy420]

Linux on servers and the Linux kernel in Android are both not Linux on desktop.

Android has completely different userspace and the Linux kernel in it is replaceable.

Linux servers have no GUI.

Calling them Linux just because they contain the Linux kernel? Well, OK, hope it will make your desktop Linux distro work better.

When I use the word Linux, I mean "Linux distros".

Different distributions have different userspaces, too. Different distributions aren't Debian repackaged with different Package Managers. They have different programs, ways of doing things, different C libraries, etc. Yeah, there's some overlap, but that overlap occurs with Android, various server setups, random desktops, the BSDs and more.

Linux servers could have a GUI if they wanted to.

At some point it's all simply A FOSS Clusterfuck Venn Diagram with everyone just drawing circles in the sand around what they're using in their OS.

[reba]

When I use the word Linux, I mean "Linux distros".

Like "RedHat" and "Alpine"?

If you do not want to be misunderstood, use the correct words! So wonder people get fed up with your posts because they're gibberisch and wrong, when you use the wrong words.

[skeevy420]

Like "RedHat" and "Alpine"?

If you do not want to be misunderstood, use the correct words! So wonder people get fed up with your posts because they're gibberisch and wrong, when you use the wrong words.

That's rather funny in context of the greater post.

[TheMightyBuzzard]

Linux on servers and the Linux kernel in Android are both not Linux on desktop.

Android has completely different userspace and the Linux kernel in it is replaceable.

Linux servers have no GUI.

Calling them Linux just because they contain the Linux kernel? Well, OK, hope it will make your desktop Linux distro work better.

When I use the word Linux, I mean "Linux distros".

Wait, how can that be?! Didn't we have The Year Of The Linux Desktop back in the late 90s? I've been lied to!

[espi]

I wonder, how does Wine Wayland handle scaling?