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  • andreduartesp
    Phoronix Member
    • Jan 2016
    • 85

    #31
    Originally posted by avis View Post
    Maybe consider optimizing/rewriting Plasma first:



    The absolute worst DE in terms of RAM consumption on Linux. I can redo the comparison but so far no one has been interested.
    In my tests vanilla plasma uses about a half of RAM than vanilla gnome. Just for noting, fedora or red hat are not good environments for plasma, their buids are just terrible, it's a known issue for years now. Try using kubuntu, neon or openSuse.

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    • Daktyl198
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2013
      • 1528

      #32
      Originally posted by mrg666 View Post

      You are so wrong. Plasma uses only ~700MB on my computer...
      Plasma only uses 500MB on my PC, and that's with other applications actively running. I have 32GB of RAM, so it's not like Plasma needs to be this frugal but it is anyway. But Avis is a known anti-Linux troll so... feel free to ignore him in the future. He's just engagement farming.

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      • andreduartesp
        Phoronix Member
        • Jan 2016
        • 85

        #33
        Originally posted by rmfx View Post
        They should really hire some ui/ux specialists to align the elements on their panels properly…
        All work are voluntary, I'm sure they will be happy with some help, and very open too. You don't even need to code, but just open a bug with some images for the better alignment will herp a lot

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        • Britoid
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2013
          • 2146

          #34
          Originally posted by avis View Post
          Maybe consider optimizing/rewriting Plasma first:



          The absolute worst DE in terms of RAM consumption on Linux. I can redo the comparison but so far no one has been interested.
          GNOME has a memory leak with the Nvidia driver and will happily use 10GB+

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          • pWe00Iri3e7Z9lHOX2Qx
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2020
            • 1470

            #35
            Originally posted by andreduartesp View Post

            In my tests vanilla plasma uses about a half of RAM than vanilla gnome. Just for noting, fedora or red hat are not good environments for plasma, their buids are just terrible, it's a known issue for years now. Try using kubuntu, neon or openSuse.
            Fedora is actually a good choice for this type of testing since the DEs are basically vanilla upstream. E.g. on OpenSUSE the Xfce experience is better than default upstream because they make changes like using Whisker Menu, but those changes also invalidate DE RAM usage comparisons.

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            • piotrj3
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2019
              • 837

              #36
              Originally posted by avis View Post
              Maybe consider optimizing/rewriting Plasma first:



              The absolute worst DE in terms of RAM consumption on Linux. I can redo the comparison but so far no one has been interested.
              biggest fault here is that Fedora KDE defaults deploy by default Akonadi. So first fix Fedora defaults not KDE.

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              • TanMan1217
                Junior Member
                • Oct 2021
                • 2

                #37
                Originally posted by Vistaus View Post

                Though I will agree that KDE is a bit harsh, even on my very well equipped almost 3-year old system, but that seems more CPU/GPU-related than RAM-related. And it's not like it causes huge issues, just a bit of sluggishness, which is not a total dealbreaker for most people.
                I run KDE on my 3 Linux virtual machines. The host has a Ryzen 5700G and 64GB of RAM. Each Linux machine has 8GB of RAM. Each machine is snappy - they're never sluggish. Your sluggishness is not due to KDE.

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                • andreduartesp
                  Phoronix Member
                  • Jan 2016
                  • 85

                  #38
                  Originally posted by pWe00Iri3e7Z9lHOX2Qx View Post

                  Fedora is actually a good choice for this type of testing since the DEs are basically vanilla upstream. E.g. on OpenSUSE the Xfce experience is better than default upstream because they make changes like using Whisker Menu, but those changes also invalidate DE RAM usage comparisons.
                  Not true for plasma, they do a awful job building it. They just don't follow the best practices for Qt and plasma, it is a secondary class software for them. For plasma user in any other distro the difference is visible from the first login. If you want a out of the box, upstream plasma experience, there is just one way, neon

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                  • sophisticles
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2015
                    • 2521

                    #39
                    Originally posted by intelfx View Post
                    Dear Linux not-fan, would you be so kind as to stop "striking again" yourself, as your presence, flamebaits and incessant plugs of your retаrded website are not appreciated by pretty much any visitor of this forum?
                    Do you feel the same way about users that post insults and flamebait towards Windows users, or the posters that rag on Gnome or Ubuntu or Intel or NVIDIA?

                    People have different opinions and see things differently than others, we either have free speech or we don't have free speech.

                    You have no problem posting dumb stuff, should you be held to the same standard.

                    How about growing up?

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                    • sophisticles
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2015
                      • 2521

                      #40
                      Originally posted by mrg666 View Post

                      You are so wrong. Plasma uses only ~700MB on my computer.

                      This is FC41 KDE spin with 32GB RAM and a GTX1650 GPU

                      "free -h" with SSH logon from network, only SDDM running, no other users
                      Code:
                      total used free shared buff/cache available
                      Mem: 31Gi 1.1Gi 28Gi 9.0Mi 1.9Gi 30Gi
                      Swap: 8.0Gi 0B 8.0Gi
                      ​

                      "free -h" on the Plasma 6.2.2 session, only Konsole running
                      Code:
                      total used free shared buff/cache available
                      Mem: 31Gi 1.8Gi 27Gi 21Mi 2.1Gi 29Gi
                      Swap: 8.0Gi 0B 8.0Gi
                      Don't reply, no discussion necessary.
                      Aren't you using a custom compiled kernel?

                      Your experience is not indicative of what an average user will see with a default install of Fedora 41.

                      Not to mention that you donate 20 Euros to KDE every 6 months so they probably supplied you with an optimized version of Plasma.

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