GNOME Foundation Announces Cost Cutting Measures Due To Budget Woes

[hf_139]

Every second person you find on GNOME gitlab is a RedHat employee, like Matthias Clasen.

Why can't RedHat sponsor their pet project?

[curfew]

Every second person you find on GNOME gitlab is a RedHat employee, like Matthias Clasen.

Why can't RedHat sponsor their pet project?

You said Red Hat sponsor Gnome by providing them with 50 % of their workforce. How are they not sponsoring their pet project?

Maybe the people at Red Hat understand that the Gnome Foundation is a scam and rather get directly involved with the developers instead of the foundation whose primary purpose seems to be scamming money and hosting secret parties with it.

[hf_139]

When the next time you wonder why the heck is gnome SHELL still an unusable mess defective by design, just read this

https://lunduke.locals.com/post/5691475/the-gnome-5-year-plan-diversity-equity-inclusion-nonexistent-powerpoint-slides

LMAO it's so typical for our friend a few posts before to be so (in their own lingo) "passive aggressive" towards plain, skeptical, and honest reporting. Because all of their mind boggling hypocrisy is easily debunked in a few (hundred) words. The world of (neo-)marxist entitled "philosophers" is truly a backwards one.

Lunduke proven right yet again

[hf_139]

You said Red Hat sponsor Gnome by providing them with 50 % of their workforce. How are they not sponsoring their pet project?

Maybe the people at Red Hat understand that the Gnome Foundation is a scam and rather get directly involved with the developers instead of the foundation whose primary purpose seems to be scamming money and hosting secret parties with it.

You are right.
The whole GNOME Foundation could die and those RedHat employees would just continue as if nothing happened.
Maybe it's for the best. NEVER donate to the Foundation.

[mlau]

It's so weird to see that Gnome is struggling for money despite being backed by Red Hat,

I think you should look at the developers that actually develop Gnome and the Gnome foundation as completely separate entities.
The developers backed by RedHat actually do something useful, while the gnome foundation seems to be another entity to funnel money to useless people promoting dei nonsense.

[Volta]

Gnome Woke Foundation better dies. It will be good for Gnome.

[hsci]

The license issue was never resolved. QT is commercial license or GPL. GTK is LGPL which is the appropriate license for a library.

https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-community/2020q2/006098.html?print=cGh4

This is still and will remain always an issue. KDE cannot control the development of Qt.

• If Qt releases break ABI/API frequently, they are in trouble.
• If Qt doesn't provide support for long term, they are in trouble.
• If Qt makes decisions which are not in favor of KDE.

https://dot.kde.org/2021/04/06/announcing-kdes-qt-5-patch-collection

For example Gtk can maintain Gtk2, Gtk3 and Gtk3. KDE never wanted to maintain Qt5 itself. And I wonder if they were happy about the switch from WebKit to Blink in Qt. KHTML was the foundation of WebKit. On the other hand Gtk need to be funded by external companies and compete with other toolkits.

Gtk could improve with better support for bindings for C++ or Python. As well as improved support for macOS and support for iOS and Android (which will improve position of Gtk as toolkit on Linux). I wish Red Hat and Canonical fund especially Gtk. I may look like supporting macOS doesn't fit their own purpose but it does, when Inkscape, GIMP and tools like Wireshark (previously Gtk) enjoy a wide userbase.

[HEL88]

After 7 years with Fedora and GNOME, I am not surprised that they have come to this situation. (...)I am now on KDE Neon and will not go back.

GNOME will not be missed.

KDE is also without money.

KDE Again Operated At A Loss During 2023 - Phoronix


The only problem is that those who use it don't pay/donate.

And the ironic thing is that the average Windows user (thanks to M$'s support of a number of open source foundations) has a larger financial contribution to the open source than many Linux and open source fans.

[hf_139]

https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-community/2020q2/006098.html?print=cGh4

This is still and will remain always an issue. KDE cannot control the development of Qt.

• If Qt releases break ABI/API frequently, they are in trouble.
• If Qt doesn't provide support for long term, they are in trouble.
• If Qt makes decisions which are not in favor of KDE.

https://dot.kde.org/2021/04/06/announcing-kdes-qt-5-patch-collection

For example Gtk can maintain Gtk2, Gtk3 and Gtk3. KDE never wanted to maintain Qt5 itself. And I wonder if they were happy about the switch from WebKit to Blink in Qt. KHTML was the foundation of WebKit. On the other hand Gtk need to be funded by external companies and compete with other toolkits.

Gtk could improve with better support for bindings for C++ or Python. As well as improved support for macOS and support for iOS and Android (which will improve position of Gtk as toolkit on Linux). I wish Red Hat and Canonical fund especially Gtk. I may look like supporting macOS doesn't fit their own purpose but it does, when Inkscape, GIMP and tools like Wireshark (previously Gtk) enjoy a wide userbase.

What if RedHat makes decisions that are not in favor of GNOME?
What if IBM does a cost cut and fires Matthias Clasen or assigns him to a different project?
At least with the Qt Group, i know that they will continue developing Qt, because it is their business model. But developing GTK is not the business model of IBM.
They can kill GTK just like they killed CentOS and then you have to hope that some other companies step up, because GNOME itself doesn't have the necessary developers for it.

[Red_inc]

How do people think the USSR or NASA got to space and the moon? They cared zero about skin color, gender or pandering to any other DEI woke causes. They got the best engineers even if some of them where (ex nazi scientists) and they got the job done. ( This is how men can build incredible projects. this is why all woke project and company's go under. to much energy and focus on idiocy.

Lunduke said in his video, He looked in to their finances beginning of the year and found it quite shaky. So this was going to happen. He also said he could do a better job its not that hard for normal people to do especially if you are the biggest most used. I do not think that he could because his name is Lunduke many company's/ projects do not like his name. But any one with a good mind should get it done with in a month, like he said its not rocket science.
If the foundation is bad. people are free to leave , might it be time to Fork the current version just like a other woke projects... like Redot did? With some sane people at the helm that actually know finance and want to focus on software and development? That give zero to DEI and woke nonsenses.
Second they can set targets listens to the community and company's (that's where money is ) and implement changes. do bug fixes. Work systematical set up frog projects for bugs and features and get stuff done.
One of the biggest resent Linux projects Steam OS from Valve started on gnome software and then did a 180 now they use KDE plasma wonder why.