GNOME Foundation Announces Cost Cutting Measures Due To Budget Woes

[Leahi84]

I don't like how Gnome looks or works at all, so that's why I'm not supporting them. I'm very happy with KDE despite the bugs.

[tobias]

Is there a point in key events if they don't raise more than the costs?
Don't they exist to attract contributors and donations?

No, they exist to make people to connect with each other so that they can work more productively together. They are about enabling development work, and much less about making money.

[Yeayo guy]

The license issue was never resolved. QT is commercial license or GPL. GTK is LGPL which is the appropriate license for a library.

https://www.qt.io/download-open-source

"LGPL – Any modification to a Qt component covered by the GNU Lesser General Public License must be contributed back to the community. This is the primary open source Qt license, which covers the majority of Qt modules."

[JackLilhammers]

The license issue was never resolved. QT is commercial license or GPL. GTK is LGPL which is the appropriate license for a library.

LGPL is definitely better for libraries, but:

1. Most of Qt is LGPL
2. Who cares about GPL vs LGPL if you're going to release all your software as GPL?
   (as GNOME and KDE do)

[curfew]

Another diversity and inclusion team bites the bullet. Good riddance!

[Britoid]

I wouldn't trust Lunduke if he told me the sky was blue, and I definitely won't be blessing his site with a view.

I'm taking a shot in the dark here, but I'm guessing you definition of "toxic political extremism" is probably something to do with trying to reach out to under represented groups? In which case, I also hope it does some good and they continue to invest in those areas.

Lunduke posts are usually based on an element of truth, but his takes are often very extreme. The OSS community is toxic as fuck, look at the recent Godot drama.

[patrick1946]

The license issue was never resolved. QT is commercial license or GPL. GTK is LGPL which is the appropriate license for a library.

Most parts of Qt are LGPL v3. Only some additions like Quick3D are GPL v3

[hsci]

Is there a point in key events if they don't raise more than the costs?
Don't they exist to attract contributors and donations?

I don't think event exist to raise any money. They allow developers and user to meet.
I attended once GUADEC in Karlsruhe. I had to pay it myself because I'm a user.
Maybe I can help once a little bit more then a few lines for a external patchset.

Good first step in trimming the glut. Conferences and events have zero purposes for such projects outside of being money holes and free vacations.

A beg to differ. Taking the fun out for developers who work as volunteers and hinder payed developers to meet isn't smart.
I guess most - if not all - companies are glad when the personnel meets. At least that is exactly what my company does.

And I'm fine that some of the money I spend is used for this events. While I hope other money is used for servers, networks, legal bills and paying developers.

That being said. I glad that the former execute board leader left GNOME. The background of this person was questionable and had no connection with free software.

[andrea76]

After 7 years with Fedora and GNOME, I am not surprised that they have come to this situation. The strange decisions they have made over these 7 years have increasingly alienated me from their philosophy, yes simple, but underneath for them users are stupid and don't have to customize or modify anything. Among other things, I found their dialog boxes with buttons on the title bar strange and counterintuitive. I am now on KDE Neon and will not go back.

GNOME will not be missed.

[curfew]

After 7 years with Fedora and GNOME, I am not surprised that they have come to this situation. The strange decisions they have made over these 7 years have increasingly alienated me from their philosophy, yes simple, but underneath for them users are stupid and don't have to customize or modify anything. Among other things, I found their dialog boxes with buttons on the title bar strange and counterintuitive. I am now on KDE Neon and will not go back.

GNOME will not be missed.

I don't think the Gnome Foundation has anything to do with software development, it's just their private little party club that scams money from corporations via associating itself with the software.

According to the Lunduke video linked a few posts earlier, the Gnome Foundation actually quietly removed the software development member of their board and didn't tell anyone until they were about to be caught red-handed a couple months later. I would call that as openly hating the Gnome developers and users, trying to silence them inside the foundation and keep them pretty much AWAY from the foundation. To make matters worse, this member had been chosen and appointed through an election, so essentially the Gnome Foundation announced itself as a dictatorship.

That being said, I was drawn into Gnome 3 because of their UI. Sometimes I've been worried of their changing design principles but currently, software-wise, I think Gnome is in the best state it's been since Gnome 2. My primary remaining gripe now is them not understanding that a file-picker dialog is not the same thing as a file browser. This has been an issue probably already in Gnome 2, but it's made even more obvious in the latest release when they are literally using Nautilus as the file-picker!

When I am browsing my files, I like to see e.g. image and video thumbnails and larger icons, but when I am trying to locate a file resource for use in another app, I don't want any of that. I want to see a simple list of filenames and especially I want to be able to sort the files list without changing how files are being sorted in Nautilus. Sometimes the Gnome devs are so fucking stupid!