Zrythm Digital Audio Workstation Abandoning GTK For Qt6

[AsciiWolf]

So, it will look like crap, but it will run (without issues) on Windows.

[reavertm]

So, it will look like crap, but it will run (without issues) on Windows.

On GNOME maybe, but it's hardly Qt developers fault.

[Vistaus]

Nice! But I know some people are going to be pissed about this...

[bple2137]

firefox uses XUL for the most part, GTK is only for like the main window. And yes, the libreoffice ui also sucks hard.

If it's "only" the main window, then why is it so hard to switch it to other toolkit or even port to newer version of GTK and there are hundreds of calls to GTK libraries in their codebase?

Good for Zrythm for ditching GTK. It's getting much worse as a generic toolkit for apps and becoming more of a library for drawing just the GNOME's interface. And it sucks more then ever. Even regular GTK 4 apps are somehow hard to get to render properly outside of GNOME (on KDE and the likes) and it continues to get worse going forward.

[ahrs]

If it's "only" the main window, then why is it so hard to switch it to other toolkit or even port to newer version of GTK and there are hundreds of calls to GTK libraries in their codebase?

Good for Zrythm for ditching GTK. It's getting much worse as a generic toolkit for apps and becoming more of a library for drawing just the GNOME's interface. And it sucks more then ever. Even regular GTK 4 apps are somehow hard to get to render properly outside of GNOME (on KDE and the likes) and it continues to get worse going forward.

It's not hard, just tedious. There was a Qt port of Firefox once upon a time.

[bple2137]

So, it will look like crap, but it will run (without issues) on Windows.

It will be beautiful on GNOME. It will miss window borders and by default it'll be unresponsive 10x10 rectangle in the bottom right corner. Full on GNOME's HIG.

[Daktyl198]

firefox uses XUL for the most part, GTK is only for like the main window. And yes, the libreoffice ui also sucks hard.

Didn't Firefox remove XUL years ago because it's renderer and parser were hot garbage and nobody knew how they worked enough to fix bugs? AFAIK, all XUL files were purged from mozilla-central as of 2019. They utilize HTML now iirc. That being said, Firefox uses GTK for more than just opening a window. They utilize it for pretty much all system interactions on Linux (interacting with files is a big one, but also things like notifications).

[Quackdoc]

I have blacklisted GTK/GDK on my laptop, It hurts, the more apps that abandon GTK, the better. I don't use zrythm, but any app that migrates away is good news to me

[mdedetrich]

Didn't Firefox remove XUL years ago because it's renderer and parser were hot garbage and nobody knew how they worked enough to fix bugs? AFAIK, all XUL files were purged from mozilla-central as of 2019. They utilize HTML now iirc. That being said, Firefox uses GTK for more than just opening a window. They utilize it for pretty much all system interactions on Linux (interacting with files is a big one, but also things like notifications).

That may be the case but if so its the literal definition of using GTK for the bare minimum (unless you expect a browser to not have a file picker or not be able to send notifications).

[Danny3]

Good!
Qt is just better than GTK!
And it also respects your custom window decorations!