NetworkManager 1.50 Released - Now Ensures Offensive Terms Don't Appear In Settings

[TheMightyBuzzard]

What a great achievement. Since apparently people insist on forcing the bizarre U.S. views of what is offensive on the remaining world, what I find offensive is that half that country is apparently willing to elect a cleptocratic idiot. Still have to deal with it by hearing his moronic ramblings in the news every single day.

Yeah, that's exactly what this conversation needed, some US presidential race idiocy added in. Thanks ever so much.

[Old Nobody]

I believe "Revert to using sysctl ipv6.conf.default for ip6-privacy" is the right move, and think "Support configuring channel-width in AP mode" is utterly needed.
I started as a NetworkManager hater, but after some years we finally found a nice symbiosis.
What do you guys think?

And why are you all wasting time talking about the change of the name of a constant in a key file, wasting much more time than the commit required? Michael pushed your trigger button with a disgraceful headline?

[BesiegedAce]

Panicking? Sounded like general discussion to me, we can have a discussion without being offended.

Hit dog hollers

[sophisticles]

Because 95% of the people who do the complaining offline are either middle-class, blue-haired, white college chicks or little pansy betas who follow them around and think shouting the same nonsense will get them laid.

So you have done a systemic analysis, counted up anyone that fits your definition, then did the math and arrived at a percent calculation?

And you did this despite the fact that there are over 8 billion people on the face of the planet and it's impossible to actually poll everyone.

Or maybe you are part of the problem.

[toves]

All really got rather peculiar in the last ten or so years.

As though anyone who is likely to look at the contents of a NM key file gives a rat's arse what the contents might or might not reference in some language or other, in some particular context or other - if one is spelunking through NM's innards there are more pressing problems.

Why anyone believes banning certain words makes the thing, action or state it describes automatically vanish, is totally beyond my comprehension and I would think incompatible with the functioning of any rational mind.

Let's ban "dictator" and the 20th century will be nice and peaceful.

[TheMightyBuzzard]

So you have done a systemic analysis, counted up anyone that fits your definition, then did the math and arrived at a percent calculation?

And you did this despite the fact that there are over 8 billion people on the face of the planet and it's impossible to actually poll everyone.

Or maybe you are part of the problem.

Afraid not. The problem is not the push back, it's the people who were taught to go searching for ways to be offended every day. Bonus points if they're offended on someone else's behalf and are part of the group they're pointing the finger at. Destroying a strong majority by teaching inter-class hatred is textbook Marxism and you lot really should read up on what happened to the useful idiots when their purpose was served.

[mobadboy]

try reading the patch challenge. incels hate this!

[fitzie]

Michael is title engineering 'cause he knows a lot of snowflakes are reeeeally attached to certain outdated words.

That policy change was one of the least significant in the release changelog... but here we are.

they want to get rid of the term whitespace (see the stanford list of all bad words). when that insanity rolls out will you say enough? No one is attached to outdated words, we're just mocking the stupidity that any of this makes a damn difference and have no intention of following along.

[guzz46]

NetworkManager has gone woke too!

[fitzie]

How about realizing the words are a product of imprecise use of language that never should have been applied in context to begin with. No one is saying people can't talk about historical injustices. People are correcting imprecise, perpetuation of destructive concepts that should have died out a century ago. A hundred years from now people are going to look back on these words and react the same way we do to the language of our two generation removed predecessors throwing out the "n word" or other racist slurs every other sentence. Language evolves. They never stand still. Words matter. Preciseness matters. Context matters. People's reactions to words matter. This is something a lot of geeks just don't get but should. It's about not being a jerk. There is no such thing as an absolute right to being a jerk to people without consequence.

except this is exactly wrong. language is not a precise thing at all. it's is colored with metaphors, analogies, tone, all sorts of things. like you just wrote that concepts dying and I wrote of colorful language, and we both understand what we're trying to convey but in no way is it precise at all. as for the theory that we can change language and somehow all of these societal problems are fixed is not justified and it ignores that it's quite often just a signal of who you can bully and/or exclude. the most obvious reason for me to object is that the people putting this forward are usually the most angry members of our society.

i consider the tatics of these people show them to have a greater moral fault than the people who speak their mind freely, as they do so with such righteousness. there is no panacea that this builds towards, it just more of the same, more things to get offended over, more bullying, more ostracizing, more silly rules. no one is a jerk for using language as they see fit, nor are they for ridiculing these language police people.