KDE Sees Many Crash Fixes & Other Improvements Ahead Of Plasma 6.2

[phoronix]

Phoronix: KDE Sees Many Crash Fixes & Other Improvements Ahead Of Plasma 6.2

KDE developers remain very busy landing bug and crash fixes ahead of the upcoming Plasma 6.2 desktop release...

https://www.phoronix.com/news/KDE-Ends-September-Fixes

[dark♂boy]

"Forgive me for being blunt, but the development progress of the KDE desktop is now far behind that of the GNOME desktop. The UI of the KDE desktop does not look like that of a modern desktop environment. On Wayland, the development progress and problem-solving are even slower.

My laptop is an AMD 8845 with an integrated GPU, along with an Nvidia 4060 graphics card. Once I disable the AMD integrated GPU and only use the Nvidia card, all the effects on the KDE desktop under Wayland become extremely sluggish, even slower than my computer from five years ago. Why should I be forced to enable the AMD integrated GPU? I feel a strong sense of restriction.

However, on the GNOME desktop with Wayland, this issue does not exist at all. Everything runs smoothly.

I have reason to believe that the future of the KDE desktop, solely relying on sponsorships, is quite bleak."

[mrg666]

"Forgive me for being blunt"

You sound stupid not blunt.
Ryzen 3700U laptop (Thinkpad E495) is totally fine here (Plasma 6.1.5, FC40). Actually, four other computers with 6800XT, 7600XT, 7800XT, and 7900XT are also fine. You might want to check your screen refresh rate. But if GNOME is okay with you, just stay there.

[Landway12]

"Forgive me for being blunt, "

You are not "blunt", but something else.

My laptop runs on an Intel CPU with Nvidia dGPU, KD 6.1, on Wayland, and is not sluggish at all.

My "issues" is some lack of functionalities at the moment, and that is already reported and being worked on (e.g. finger pinch zoom in Dolphin, Genview, Okular etc.).

But in its current state, KDE is far superior to Gnome for an average user. This is mostly due to Gnome's poor design choices (lack of taskbar, useless top panel taking space, pop-ups locks to the parent window (cannot peek behind) etc.), consuming the user's productivity. This would not be an issue, if it wasn't for Gnome currently being the primary DE representing Linux for average users through Ubuntu and Fedora, and effectively pushing the users back to Windows/MacOS and consuming development resources from the actual competitive alternatives, such as KDE.

Looking at the Linux environment from an outside perspective as an ordinary user, trying to leave Windows/MacOS and break their dominance, the fragmentation and lack of leadership in the Linux desktop environment, is the advantage of Windows/MacOS. KDE is currently the only reasonable option to effectively penetrate into larger user segments of the desktop market, and Gnome is holding it back. I hope the Ubuntu team one day decides to make KDE the front runner, and together with Valve and other sponsors, can finally focus their resources and iron out the last major gaps that would bring an end to the Windows/MacOS market share.

[dremon_nl]

"the development progress of the KDE desktop is now far behind that of the GNOME desktop.

Yes, GNOME developers are very busy making sure nobody wants Linux on their desktop.

[bitterseeds]

"Forgive me for being blunt, but the development progress of the KDE desktop is now far behind that of the GNOME desktop. The UI of the KDE desktop does not look like that of a modern desktop environment. On Wayland, the development progress and problem-solving are even slower.

My laptop is an AMD 8845 with an integrated GPU, along with an Nvidia 4060 graphics card. Once I disable the AMD integrated GPU and only use the Nvidia card, all the effects on the KDE desktop under Wayland become extremely sluggish, even slower than my computer from five years ago. Why should I be forced to enable the AMD integrated GPU? I feel a strong sense of restriction.

However, on the GNOME desktop with Wayland, this issue does not exist at all. Everything runs smoothly.

I have reason to believe that the future of the KDE desktop, solely relying on sponsorships, is quite bleak."

It sounds like you don't have the Nvidia drivers that you need. You don't mention what distro, or what version of the Nvidia drivers you are using ...

This sounds like a skill issue.

[bkdwt]

"Forgive me for being blunt, but the development progress of the KDE desktop is now far behind that of the GNOME desktop. The UI of the KDE desktop does not look like that of a modern desktop environment. On Wayland, the development progress and problem-solving are even slower.

My laptop is an AMD 8845 with an integrated GPU, along with an Nvidia 4060 graphics card. Once I disable the AMD integrated GPU and only use the Nvidia card, all the effects on the KDE desktop under Wayland become extremely sluggish, even slower than my computer from five years ago. Why should I be forced to enable the AMD integrated GPU? I feel a strong sense of restriction.

However, on the GNOME desktop with Wayland, this issue does not exist at all. Everything runs smoothly.

I have reason to believe that the future of the KDE desktop, solely relying on sponsorships, is quite bleak."

You need disable gsp on bootflag and add modeset=1 too.

[Shadywack]

"Forgive me for being blunt, but the development progress of the KDE desktop is now far behind that of the GNOME desktop. The UI of the KDE desktop does not look like that of a modern desktop environment. On Wayland, the development progress and problem-solving are even slower.

My laptop is an AMD 8845 with an integrated GPU, along with an Nvidia 4060 graphics card. Once I disable the AMD integrated GPU and only use the Nvidia card, all the effects on the KDE desktop under Wayland become extremely sluggish, even slower than my computer from five years ago. Why should I be forced to enable the AMD integrated GPU? I feel a strong sense of restriction.

However, on the GNOME desktop with Wayland, this issue does not exist at all. Everything runs smoothly.

I have reason to believe that the future of the KDE desktop, solely relying on sponsorships, is quite bleak."

You picked a distro that doesn't set sane defaults for nVidia, like modeset=1. Ymmv greatly.

[benjiro]

A yes, the typical friendly Linux community in action...

User with (potential) less skills to solve a specific graphical driver or other issue (that already puts him in the 99% of all users). Maybe blames the issue on the wrong problem, but this is very common. Not everybody is in the knowhow of every aspect of a OS, that prides itself for having a few hundred distros, each with mixed tools, setups, driver defaults and other settings.

From the 6 replies, we have 3 directly or indirectly insulting the user, one that is actually helpful, and one that is somewhat helpful. And one that blames the competitive desktop, that is irrelevant to the user issue.

2/6 ... We call this a failing score! And i wonder why Linux Desktop has issue bring people in the fold... /s

[Blisterexe]

A yes, the typical friendly Linux community in action...

User with (potential) less skills to solve a specific graphical driver or other issue (that already puts him in the 99% of all users). Maybe blames the issue on the wrong problem, but this is very common. Not everybody is in the knowhow of every aspect of a OS, that prides itself for having a few hundred distros, each with mixed tools, setups, driver defaults and other settings.

From the 6 replies, we have 3 directly or indirectly insulting the user, one that is actually helpful, and one that is somewhat helpful. And one that blames the competitive desktop, that is irrelevant to the user issue.

2/6 ... We call this a failing score! And i wonder why Linux Desktop has issue bring people in the fold... /s

This is a phoronix issue, not a linux user issue, had they posted that on lemmy or reddit theyd have had significantly better responses