GNOME Continues Hashing Out Individual Home Directory Encryption, Modernizing Platform

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  • phoronix
    Administrator
    • Jan 2007
    • 67377

    GNOME Continues Hashing Out Individual Home Directory Encryption, Modernizing Platform

    Phoronix: GNOME Continues Hashing Out Individual Home Directory Encryption, Modernizing Platform

    GNOME developers have been making progress on being able to individually encrypt user home directories as well as modernizing platform infrastructure as part of the investments made by Germany's Sovereign Tech Fund...

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  • ssokolow
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2013
    • 5112

    #2
    modernizing platform infrastructure with the likes of libadwaita 1.6 being released
    I was curious what the "Modernizing Platform" in the headline was... now I know. It's not "Modernizing" as in "bringing up to spec"... it's "modernizing" as in "making more like what Microsoft used to call Metro UI and but renamed to Modern UI after the marketing execs got their hands on it."

    It doesn't matter how much they say it, Adwaita is "different", not "better" and it's only "more modern" in the sense that they've deprecated the idea of wanting to simultaneously feel natural in GNOME and other desktops and hadn't been doing that in the GNOME 2 era.
    Last edited by ssokolow; 13 September 2024, 10:57 PM.

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    • DMJC
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 594

      #3
      ssokolow, I think it won't matter soon, between the Cinnamon Xapps initiative, and MATE desktop getting functional on Wayland there will be GTK based alternatives to the GNOME/libAdwaita ecosystem.

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      • oleid
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2007
        • 2521

        #4
        I like the idea of homed. But last time I tired it didn't work for me. I blame Debian stable, the version was probably too old and bug-ridden. And since then I hacked per- user encryption with zfs. That works nicely at the moment. Maybe at some point homed will support zfs as well🤔

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        • Daktyl198
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2013
          • 1584

          #5
          Originally posted by ssokolow View Post

          I was curious what the "Modernizing Platform" in the headline was... now I know. It's not "Modernizing" as in "bringing up to spec"... it's "modernizing" as in "making more like what Microsoft used to call Metro UI and but renamed to Modern UI after the marketing execs got their hands on it."
          Don't forget, it's called Fluent UI now on the Microsoft side, for Windows 11 style.

          As for libadwaita, it's basically trying to mimic exactly how Windows works, as far as I can tell. It's not a terrible idea all in all... having pre-made widgets that style everything for you is useful as a developer, and more desktops could utilize something similar to make developer's lives easier and integrate apps into their platform better. COSMIC is a great contender, given their strict themeing in the desktop already, it would make writing such a library fairly easy (is libcosmic already basically this?). KDE would have a harder time, but IMO would benefit the most given their extremely spread out app ecosystem and the chore of developing with raw Qt.

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          • Topolino
            Phoronix Member
            • Jun 2024
            • 116

            #6
            Originally posted by oleid View Post
            I blame Debian stable, the version was probably too old and bug-ridden.
            at least we can't blame Debian Testing. 256.6 was released a few days ago and already migrating to Testing.

            Same for desktop. Canonical has at least 5 developers on it plus some uploads from the usual independents.

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            • Topolino
              Phoronix Member
              • Jun 2024
              • 116

              #7
              Originally posted by DMJC View Post
              ssokolow, I think it won't matter soon, between the Cinnamon Xapps initiative, and MATE desktop getting functional on Wayland there will be GTK based alternatives to the GNOME/libAdwaita ecosystem.
              So far no alternative style lib implementations. All you get is a few blogs defending minimum effort. And more importantly the non-communication about the recent removal of budgie-desktop. I think they framed it like "Fedora is more cool anyway".

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              • access
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2019
                • 199

                #8
                Originally posted by Topolino View Post

                So far no alternative style lib implementations. All you get is a few blogs defending minimum effort. And more importantly the non-communication about the recent removal of budgie-desktop. I think they framed it like "Fedora is more cool anyway".
                Budgie was removed from Debian testing because it prevented the migration to GNOME 45+ in testing. Budgie had a dependency on an old version of mutter and no budgie dev/maintainer/packager stepped up to actually get budgie's fork of mutter, magpie, into Debian (it was in new for a while but languished). Only reason I know is because I was waiting for the GNOME 45 and later the 46 transition in testing/trixie and wanted to find out what was taking so long.

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                • hf_139
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2023
                  • 339

                  #9
                  Since GNOME discovered now that multiple users could use a single system.

                  Can you look into xdg-desktop-portal and make it work when applications run under different user accounts?
                  If you need to be convinced more: Android is using such a security model, and you love tablets afterall.

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                  • spicfoo
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2023
                    • 724

                    #10
                    Originally posted by hf_139 View Post
                    Since GNOME discovered now that multiple users could use a single system.

                    Can you look into xdg-desktop-portal and make it work when applications run under different user accounts?
                    If you need to be convinced more: Android is using such a security model, and you love tablets afterall.
                    Android doesn't use multiple user accounts for a single IPC service. As long as you don't use non-free licenses like SSPL, you could submit a PR.

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