GIMP 3.0 Enters String Freeze, Inching Closer To Release

[Aeder]

I don't think GIMP has any full-time developers, AFAIU they all just do what they can in their spare time. If they got some serious funding like Blender, I guarantee you development would speed up drastically.

Blender got its funding by listening and focusing on sets of features that were needed for their users' use cases.

Every time someone wondered why a feature that Photoshop had for years was not in GIMP, people would say things like "GIMP is not trying to be Photoshop". And apparently they have 1.3M in donations sitting idle since 2014 because they can't work out how to manage the money.

I think it is a project management issue that money won't solve.

[You-]

GTK4 is a pain in the ass to port menu code over to. I've been developing my applications for GTK3 and GTK4 and a bunch of my apps I haven't figured out howto handle menus so the UI style is consistent with MATE. I'm not interested in hamburger menus and GNOME 4 at all.

https://docs.gtk.org/gtk4/class.PopoverMenuBar

Whats missing?

[Anux]

Gimp is never the right tool because everything gimp can do krita can do better...

Well I'm pressing X to doubt here. Scripting/GEGL all the filters, Krita has a lot less functionality.

[rabcor]

Not sure what this has got to do with sanity? One should use the right tool for their job and that might be krita or gimp depending on what you want to do.

Gimp is never the right tool because everything gimp can do krita can do better...

[binarybanana]

Green Is My Pepper

[ElectricPrism]

Really god? You've got GIMP 3.0 entering feature freeze and Half-Life 3 rumors going around at the same time? If you're going to start throwing hints that the rapture is coming you could be at least a little subtle. Stuff like it raining blood and not something as in-your-face as this...

Just remember if you see it raining green peppers like matrix code when you're outdoors that the simulation may be breaking down. That's the price we pay for cypher bittorrenting hotties and a lot of movies.

[ElectricPrism]

It is surprising how much from the first days of the release of gtk4 has still stuck around on these forums (and elsewhere). All of it was FUD and not based on technical merits.

Gimp WILL benefit when it moves to gtk4. Including improved cross platform support - the MacOS developers involved wanted this to happen faster as they wanted to use the updated support, but they will have to wait.

With the next releases of gtk4 there will also be a credible HDR story that photo editors like the GIMP will benefit from.

Finally, the jump to gtk will be easier than the gimp 3 releases - the initial port to gtk3 was ready around 7-8 years ago, but that was not enough. They then also ported to "modern gtk3" API and then also had to redo all the extension work to get rid of python 2 and other deprecated dependencies. Gimp 3 didnt port to just gtk3 but cleaned up 2 decades of cruft and added features like space invasion and even an initial implementation of non destructive editing. It is a HUGE release.

Yup. Technical debt is real and AFAIK I'm sure there were bits left over from the invention of GTK 1.0 back when it was "The Gimp Toolkit 1.0".

The distillation of image functions into GEGL. The emergence of GMIC.

I use the non-destructive editing in 2.99 nearly every day and it's a great QOL addition. As others have said in the thread too, the pace has quickened when you watch the Git Activity and synergy.

[You-]

GTK4 is a pain in the ass to port menu code over to. I've been developing my applications for GTK3 and GTK4 and a bunch of my apps I haven't figured out howto handle menus so the UI style is consistent with MATE. I'm not interested in hamburger menus and GNOME 4 at all.

What exactly have you run into? Have you updated to modern gtk3 menu code so there are no remaining deprecations?

[DMJC]

GTK4 is a pain in the ass to port menu code over to. I've been developing my applications for GTK3 and GTK4 and a bunch of my apps I haven't figured out howto handle menus so the UI style is consistent with MATE. I'm not interested in hamburger menus and GNOME 4 at all.

I'm looking forward to GIMP 3.0, especially the upgrade of the plugin engine to Python 3.x. It's been painful not being able to run a lot of plugins because of Python 2 being removed from distros.

[alfcyber]

Hi there,
Is it actually clear whether many of the existing addons would continue to work with gimp3? In my opinion, the only really important innovation is the support or scalability of the UI with higher resolution screens (but a better color scheme is also useful) and wouldn't it have been possible to integrate that into gimp 2.10.x?
By the way, the dependency tree of gimp 2.99x shows me a total of 74 packages, depending on what is being compiled in