GNOME Session & GDM Can Now Be Built Without X11 Support

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  • phoronix
    Administrator
    • Jan 2007
    • 67377

    GNOME Session & GDM Can Now Be Built Without X11 Support

    Phoronix: GNOME Session & GDM Can Now Be Built Without X11 Support

    Following the recent work to Mutter and GNOME Shell that was merged for allowing to build with X11 support disabled, the GDM display manager and GNOME-Session code have also seen the ability added to compile without X11 support...

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  • uid313
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 6922

    #2
    Great news! 👍

    For a more modern, leaner, legacy-free and secure desktop!

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    • Jumbotron
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2015
      • 1266

      #3
      Finally shedding the old UNIX cruff. X has served its purpose. Now finally onto the 21st Century. I know Ubuntu will default to Wayland before this but 26.04 LTS will finally be a modern, 21st Century Linux desktop particularly when you include the fact that they have made the decision to always ship with the latest kernel. Also by 26.04 LTS Ubuntu will probably have all the kinks worked out of their immutable offering.

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      • zexelon
        Senior Member
        • May 2019
        • 762

        #4
        I always love the religious fervor that Wayland and GNOME bring to the table... I mean when they commit to something they always go in... users be damned!

        Its Wayland all the way to the bottom!

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        • You-
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2010
          • 1151

          #5
          Originally posted by zexelon View Post
          I always love the religious fervor that Wayland and GNOME bring to the table... I mean when they commit to something they always go in... users be damned!

          Its Wayland all the way to the bottom!
          To be fair, KDE are ahead of them on this. They could build without X11 for the 6.0 release.

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          • kpedersen
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2012
            • 2712

            #6
            Originally posted by uid313 View Post
            a more modern, leaner, legacy-free and secure desktop!
            ... can be built now that Gnome has fscked off. Good riddance!

            Also can't wait for Wayland to also separate out from the Xorg repo. Its getting wee everywhere. Sometimes even the slowest kid needs to fly the nest at some point!

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            • ahrs
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2021
              • 586

              #7
              Originally posted by You- View Post

              To be fair, KDE are ahead of them on this. They could build without X11 for the 6.0 release.
              It doesn't always work too, it's done with an ugly pile of C++ ifdefs / macros, etc, that are fragile and developers might forget about. I've encountered similar issues in Firefox and other software too. The sooner X11 goes away for good and developers can drop these ugly ifdefs and macros, the better.

              I guess they will always need them for XWayland though because that's never going anywhere.

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              • CommunityMember
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2019
                • 1379

                #8
                Originally posted by You- View Post
                To be fair, KDE are ahead of them on this. They could build without X11 for the 6.0 release.
                For some target platforms (think embedded, or various kiosk/appliance solutions), building without unneeded components is more than just a nice idea, it also reduces the potential attack surface, and it also reduces the needed flash sizes. While those with desktops with 128GB of memory, and 32TB of disk space, and 64 CPUs, might not notice a few extra hundred megabytes of unnecessary software bloat, there are other platform targets.

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                • You-
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 1151

                  #9
                  Originally posted by CommunityMember View Post

                  For some target platforms (think embedded, or various kiosk/appliance solutions), building without unneeded components is more than just a nice idea, it also reduces the potential attack surface, and it also reduces the needed flash sizes. While those with desktops with 128GB of memory, and 32TB of disk space, and 64 CPUs, might not notice a few extra hundred megabytes of unnecessary software bloat, there are other platform targets.
                  I wasnt criticising of doing this or gnome or KDE's approach.

                  I was just messing with the poster's head before he got into the groove of "SEE? GNOME BAD!"

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                  • oleid
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 2521

                    #10
                    Great, can't wait untill this is configurable via Portage. More options for the win!

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