Mir-Based Miracle-WM Updated Ahead Of Fedora Miracle Spin

[phoronix]

Phoronix: Mir-Based Miracle-WM Updated Ahead Of Fedora Miracle Spin

Miracle-WM as a reminder is a Wayland tiling window manager that is built atop Canonical's Mir. Miracle-WM also happens to be developed by a Canonical engineer, Matthew Kosarek. Miracle-WM is inspired by i3 and Sway but the main difference is turning to Mir to do the heavy lifting. Miracle-WM 0.3.1 was released on Monday as the project prepares for its Fedora Miracle Spin debut coming up...

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Miracle-WM-0.3.1

[varikonniemi]

The monoculture fears of wayland because it is harder to make an implementation from scratch than just a x compositor are proven thoroughly erroneous. I'm pretty sure wayland has more actively used compositors to choose from than X had at same age.

Mir or miriway seems to be a better alternative to wlroots.

[Britoid]

The monoculture fears of wayland because it is harder to make an implementation from scratch than just a x compositor are proven thoroughly erroneous. I'm pretty sure wayland has more actively used compositors to choose from than X had at same age.

Mir or miriway seems to be a better alternative to wlroots.

I'd argue and say developing a Xorg server is vastly more complicated than building a Wayland server, which is the correct comparison.

[varikonniemi]

I'd argue and say developing a Xorg server is vastly more complicated than building a Wayland server, which is the correct comparison.

It's easy to do something meaningless. You still have the ancient limited shitty foundation of X11 limiting you. Wayland does not suffer this, so a little more effort for a more heterogenous ecosystem is certainly desirable.

What i agree with you on is that X11 might be more inviting for a one man basement dweller project to be viable to get something running. But that certainly is not the least common denominator a desktop should be designed around.

If you want to stick to that mentality, then it was a error to introduce protected mode in the processors. Do you even know how much easier it was to achieve some simple thing quickly in a real mode system?

[intelfx]

I'd argue and say developing a Xorg server is vastly more complicated than building a Wayland server, which is the correct comparison.

Well, then the argument against Wayland "monoculture" FUD is even stronger.

[varikonniemi]

Well, then the argument against Wayland "monoculture" FUD is even stronger.

how did you come to that insane conclusion?

[intelfx]

how did you come to that insane conclusion?

What exactly is the conclusion that you didn't like?

[acobar]

Well, then the argument against Wayland "monoculture" FUD is even stronger.

Which Wayland "monoculture" you are talking about? Never heard anyone using it before.

The main complaints revolved around it being pixmap focused (it is), that it was badly well-thought-out (it is), and that it lacked many of the traits needed on modern DEs (again, it did, but this has seen lots of improvements).

[intelfx]

Which Wayland "monoculture" you are talking about? Never heard anyone using it before.

See above ("The monoculture fears of wayland <...>").

The main complaints revolved around it being pixmap focused (it is), that it was badly well-thought-out (it is), and that it lacked many of the traits needed on modern DEs (again, it did, but this has seen lots of improvements).

These "complaints" are not worth their price in paper and ink, but you do you.

[acobar]

See above ("The monoculture fears of wayland <...>").



These "complaints" are not worth their price in paper and ink, but you do you.

Some of the many discussions people have around Wayland:

https://forum.zorin.com/t/the-trouble-with-wayland/36189

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29017563

https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/wayland-whats-blocking-you-from-using-it/114012/2

But, go ahead and pretend any complaints are just nonsense.