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  • Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
    This is not nonsense. Many dictators have been prosecuted after they have lost power by the very laws they created. Dictator creates law this is true. Judge processes law this is true. Creating a law does not mean you cannot break those laws.
    you just contradict yourself logically because if you can create a law freely as a dictator you can change the law at an time you can even change the law for 1 second then you break the law in this 1 second and after the 1 second you change the law back to the old status with that in mind it is impossible for a dictator to break the law.
    people make always the same logical error they see a dictator though the glasses of a democratic republic.

    just go long time back in time like 3000 years ago in nordic germanic pagan culture the leader if he killed a man it was not murder it was judgement and enforce of this judgement. means the man who was killed by the leader did get death penalthy in the highest court and the leader was also the same man who did prosecute the death penalty. it was the privilege of this leader to do so.

    this makes clear what you talk "Creating a law does not mean you cannot break those laws." is just nonsense.

    Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
    Also being a dictator if you get over thrown does not mean you remain the judge. So its not impossible for a dictator to be corrupt. It also not impossible for a dictator to be prosecuted for corruption by the very laws that dictator created.
    again you talk nonsense a dictator can only be corrupt if you view him though the glasses of a democratic republics this only shows that your mind is corrupted by exactly this democratic republic mind virus.

    "being a dictator if you get over thrown"

    if you watch some statistics about over thrown of governments then you discover that democracies are much much much much more likely to be over thrown and most dictatorships are very stable over long time.
    and also these long time stable dictatorships most of the time like in iraq is not over thrown by their own people but by hostil outside forces like democratic republic usa...
    without the usa Saddam Hussain would be in power even in 2024...

    the danger of being over thrown is like 100 times higher in a democratic republic than in a dictatorship.

    dictatorships are more stable than democracies... just see north korea they have more stable system than democracies.

    Originally posted by oiaohm View Post

    So the idea that dictator cannot break the law this is false.
    it is only false in your totally corrupted mind corrupted by the democratic republic virus.
    people who have this bias brainwashed by school and universities they have a viewpoint they see all though these glasses of democratic republic ..

    i do not have this bias because i have free myself from this mind control hostil ideology called democratic republic.

    Originally posted by oiaohm View Post

    Dictators can break laws the issue to to prosecute them for breaking laws normally requires overthrowing them to replace the judge. Dictator absolute can be corrupt. Dictator makes it very hard to counter this corruption.
    this is clearly wrong dictators can not break the law because they are the law and they are also the highest judge by this they can not be prosecuted because he is the highest judge.
    as you say that you can only prosecute a dictator if you over thrown the regime shows that you clearly believe in your own lies. also this is statistically not the case because dictatorships are more stable then democracies.
    just keep in mind without the US army invading the Iraq Saddam Hussein would be dictator of iraq in 2024...
    this means dictatorships are very stable to the point the hostile us army bomb your country into the stone-age.
    over thrown in democracies are statistically 100 times more likely. and keep in mind the US Army did over thrown many democratic republics in the past. this means democratic republic means nothing.

    "Dictator makes it very hard to counter this corruption."

    you clearly have delusions a dictator can not be corrupt it only looks like it for you because you see it from the glasses of a democratic republic. the so called corrupt dictator as you claim is just a normal dictator who does his normal duty. if he gets money for doing a task then it is just a lawful decision he decided that for his people and the leader of this country it is the best option to take this money and perform this task.

    its more the question why you believe that you can decide what is best for these people and this dictator ?
    you have no right to do so.

    Originally posted by oiaohm View Post

    Up to particular size. That does not extend to skyscrapers or Egyptian pyramids . "Tower of Pisa" way shorter than what is a sky-scrapper or Egyption shows why you need maths for building over a particular height and get those maths right. You need to be able to calculate the load on the ground and the strength of the soil/ground you are dealing with. If you don't your building will no remain vertical and without doing even more maths will over time fall over.
    the definition what is a sky scraper already changed over 1000 times. also if you build on granite stone you more or less do not need to calculate the strenght of the soil/ground.
    if you have steel girder you can build realative high buildings without math.
    because keep in mind it is not math what gives the building stability its the granite stone ground and the steel girder who gives the stability. but modern wood based skycrapers proof you do not even need steel girder...
    i am pretty sure you can build a 20 floor house with steel girder without any math.
    i say it again its not the mathematics what gives a building strenght with math you can only check the strenght in theory what gives a building really strenght is graite stone ground and steel girders ...

    and now you responds with no no no you need math LOL... please spare me the time.

    Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
    ​​
    The Romans had examples of two story building falling over on particular land conditions. The higher you go the smaller your tolerances are. Yes you can wing it up to about a 5 to 6 story/floor building with basic plummet​ for vertical and performing rough ground strength assessments . You said modern skyscraper those are not shorter than 30 floors/stories. Yes 35 floors is the shortest building I can find that is formally declared a skyscraper. Skyscrapers and big items like Egyptian pyramids you need maths. You must do maths to make sure you are not making a huge mistake.
    there are cities 1ooo of years old build on granite ground who realtive high buildings build of stone are the norm. means more than 6 floors. granite ground makes it easy to do so.
    i said you already the word skyscraper means nothing because the definition of this word changed 1000 of times over time.

    i have question for you what makes a 30floor building possible is it math or steel girders i am 100% sure it is not math instead it is steel girders. the only thing what math gives you is that you can check in theory before building if it would work.. just imagine a world without math but you have high quality steel girders with trial and error you of course can build a 30 floor building because it is not math what makes it possible it is the steel what makes it possible.

    "Skyscrapers and big items like Egyptian pyramids you need maths."

    this is clearly wrong Agyptian Pyramids do not work because of math they work because of granite stone.
    the material like granite or steel makes the building possible with try and error and not the math.
    math just spare you many failures in the trial and error process.

    you overestimate the importance of mathematics​ because trial and error can replace all mathematics.

    Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
    ​​
    qarium mathmatics is older than skyscrapers and mathmatics is required to build the building in skyscraper class. Yes the "Tower of Pisa" is only 8 floors. The 5 to 6 story/floor build limit without doing lots of different maths on area/volume and so on has existed for a very long time. Yes babylon had building greater than the 5 to 6 floor limit that were perfectly stable but they also had the early construction maths to work out load on ground and how foundations had to be done so that the building will stay put.
    the principle of trial and error is older than Mathematics and you can replace all mathematics with trial and error.

    "mathmatics is required to build the building in skyscraper class."

    this is clearly wrong you can do it with trial and error as well. it will just cost much more money to develop the skyscraper.

    you overestimate the importance of mathematics​ because trial and error can replace all mathematics.

    Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
    ​​
    There is a big difference between building any small vertical building and building the large vertical buildings. Like it or not there is a limit how far you can just wing it making a vertical building. Past a particular height you need maths. With particular ground conditions you need maths.
    the limitation is not mathematics or the absence​ of mathematics the limitation is only the material like granite and steel and also your money resource to perform trial and error. if you have granite and steeel and unlimited resources to perform trial and error you do not need math.

    you overestimate the importance of mathematics​ because trial and error can replace all mathematics.​

    physics is limited by materials and not by math.

    Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
    ​​​
    Yes there is wing it construction up to X height. Scale model first upto Y height, Then maths of volume/area/mass and so on is up to a height we have not found max limit of yet. Both X and Y height can be roughly answered. wing it is 5 to 6 floors for X height . Scale model is about 10-12 floors for Y height. Yes well short of at least 30 floors of a skyscraper.
    Yes the pyramids of Egypt are cross into skyscraper height but are not skyscrapers. One of the clauses means a pyramid cannot be a skyscraper. To officially be a skyscraper the building has to be build with part of the design being continuously habitable by living humans once construction is complete that is not a pyramid.
    The most stupid thing to pass all the skyscraper requirements is the Eiffel Tower. There is a single livable apartment in the complete thing at the very top so was constructed to be continuously habitable.
    physics is not limited by mathematics and you do not need mathematics at all
    physics is limited by materials like granite or steel and with trial and error you can replace all math.
    you just need unlimited money resources then you can build a skyscraper just with trial and error.

    just think about how modern AI work they just perform trial and error billion over billion of try and error cycles with that you can solve any problem without math.
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    • Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
      Trump lost both the popular vote and the electoral vote to current President Joe Biden in the 2020 election. Here's exactly how the votes break down.

      Where is your evidence. The numbers on the counted votes in 2020 Trump lost both the direct popular vote and the Electoral College.
      the official counting was part of the bias to they counted votes from non-citizens they also counted non-legitimate ballots means ballot papers who where copied and not officially printed.
      you show me a news from mainstream media what is also part of the plot.
      the us military collected the evidence and they have the evidence and they accepted donald trump as president in 2020. and they used a actor who wears a rubber mask playing joe biden who is a puppet president for the public and the real president in the shadow is Donald trump who controls the rubber mask wearing fake president. between 2020 and 2024 joe biden was not prsident he can not because he died in 2008 in the ukraine. its a puppet president played by a actor weaing a rubber mask.
      also keep in mind donald trump cheats the system by this 4 year of shadow presidency because this expand his presidents time maximum from 8 to 12 years. he was president from 2016-2020 and he was shadow president from 2020-2024 and he will be again president from 2024-2028...

      and he also replaced nearly all protestant-christian judges with conservative-catholic judges in the surprime court it is same what happened in the Spanish Revolution of 1936​ an it also is the same catholic overtake of power in the hitler regime 1933-1945 and well the same conservative catholics overtake America from 2016-2028...

      "Where is your evidence"

      the joke is the truth does not need evidence the truth stands alone without evidence.

      Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
      If the you say someone should be voted in by popular votes the reality is Trump should not have had his first term in office. There have only been 5 USA presidents who got to be president and did not win the popular vote and one of those is Trump.
      There is zero evidence to all the claims you just made qarium.
      I do not believe in Democracy at all this means i do not care who wins the popular vote....
      al gore did win the popular vote against bush and al gore did not become president the US democracy is just hoax and fake.

      Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
      In fact the parties who were making the claims.
      The report says Russian leader Vladimir Putin authorized a campaign to assist former President Donald Trump and undermine Joe Biden, though it was not on the same scale as Moscow's efforts in 2016.

      There were many levels of check done in 2020 because there was active operation by Russia in the USA election to help trump in 2020.
      you are clearly delusional because trump won the 2020 election and the only group who did matter was the US military and they accepted trump as president in 2020 they did choose to let the rest of the population in the left-liberal mass media lie and to manage this they installed a rubber mask wearing actor who played joe biden who dies in ukraine in 2008 killed by US special forces.
      these people do not care what the general American population think they see the 2020-2024 shadow presidency of donald trump with the rubber mask wearing actor playing joe biden as a way to legally overcome the 8 years time limitation of the us presidency of donald trump if they would tell the public donald trump was president between 2020-2024 then donald trump would legally not be allowed to become president from 2024-2028... this means instead of 8 years donald trump has now 12 years.
      this is a great win for donald trump and a great win for conservative generals in the us military.

      and they have zero interest to tell the population the truth. because if they would tell the population the truth donald trump would not legaly be allowed to be president between 2024-2028...
      and this establish a absolut conservative catholic majority in the surprime court and they will use this power to more or less abolish the US democratic republic as we know it today.
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      • Originally posted by qarium View Post
        you just contradict yourself logically because if you can create a law freely as a dictator you can change the law at an time you can even change the law for 1 second then you break the law in this 1 second and after the 1 second you change the law back to the old status with that in mind it is impossible for a dictator to break the law.
        Dictator who break their own laws and get prosecuted for them are human they failed to change the law before they broken them. You cannot have people follow laws if you don't publish them. Law is fun that way it has to be transmitted to others even with a Dictator. So absolute yes a Dictator can break his own created laws because he failed to change the law to cover his current actions. This has happened multi times in history and when the Dictator left office then been prosecuted for them even when the Dictator is dead. Yes your claim that Dictator could change the law one second then change it back is true but for this to be the case with law this law change has to be documented.
        .

        Originally posted by qarium View Post
        i have question for you what makes a 30floor building possible is it math or steel girders i am 100% sure it is not math instead it is steel girders. the only thing what math gives you is that you can check in theory before building if it would work.. just imagine a world without math but you have high quality steel girders with trial and error you of course can build a 30 floor building because it is not math what makes it possible it is the steel what makes it possible.
        This is wrong is not funny.

        Originally posted by qarium View Post
        ythis is clearly wrong Agyptian Pyramids do not work because of math they work because of granite stone.
        the material like granite or steel makes the building possible with try and error and not the math.
        math just spare you many failures in the trial and error process..
        In fact no the core of the Egyptian Pyramid is made from a form of concrete. https://www.ce.memphis.edu/1101/inte..._concrete.html
        Granite is used in very select places.

        Once you get above a particular height building material limits come very important. Does not matter how good your steel/stone is if you exceed the material limit.

        30 stories trial and error is very much out. China with some of their construction companies with steel and concrete have tried the trial and error method out of 20000 constructed building zero still standing after 2 years.

        Trial and error method you would basically end up covering the earth in failed 30 stories building about 3 times over before you got to what appeared successful design due to getting lucky with foundations.

        Of course even using maths and find what appears to be a correct design does not mean you cannot get this wrong as the twin towers of 9/11 showed.

        To build 30 story building that long term safe you need Maths you also need the environmental information of what issues the building will face and you need lots of material understanding and quality control. Please note the twin towers could have be collapsed without aircraft hitting them just with a bad enough fire breaking out so it was luck they stood as long as they did not good design. Yes fire preventing coating being fire amplifier when it aged is not a good thing. Yes it was not brought down by the steel being faulty but one of the other materials in the building being faulty.

        Originally posted by qarium View Post
        the official counting was part of the bias to they counted votes from non-citizens they also counted non-legitimate ballots means ballot papers who where copied and not officially printed.
        Lets say what you wrote is true to the level Trump claimed . Remember Trump claimed he won 80% of the real vote. By the counted vote 32% of the possible population voted for Trump 32/0.8 gives you 40% of the population voted. The reality here to come USA president there is a min vote number of the election has to be called a wash and redone and 40% is under this number.

        The reality here Trump did not win the 2020 election because if the fraud Trump claimed was real not enough people voted for the election result to be valid. Reality with level of fraud Trump should not have been claiming to be put into office but instead should have been demanding new elections. If the fraud does not exist Trump did not win either.

        Yes I would to not dispute say it possible that Biden should not have won the 2020 election but the number say neither did trump. Biden is the only one that could have won by the counted votes without having to redo the complete election in 2020. Avoiding having to run the election twice may be why Biden was put into power.

        The trump point qarium over 2020 simply does not fly. Either way Trump was not the 2020 president because he did not have enough votes he either did not have enough votes to beat Biden or there were not enough votes for the presidential election to be valid. This is a true rock and hard place for Trump this is why Trumps supports going to try to force Trump into office was so wrong. Trump never had the numbers required in 2020 to be USA president no matter what way you look at it.

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        • Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
          There were many levels of check done in 2020 because there was active operation by Russia in the USA election to help trump in 2020.
          i am pretty sure that the russians did not rig the 2020 election.

          Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
          Rudolph Giuliani
          A New York court said he made repeated false statements about former President Donald Trump's 2020 election loss.

          Yes the claims you have made are from Rudoph Gluliani those have totally failed multi peer reviews. I am a Thales so garbage you just wrote means nothing because you are repeating garbage that you cannot find the evidence of. Also I am not a USA citizen.
          Rudolph Giuliani is not the source of my claims. i do not follow Rudolf Glulliani on a regular basis.

          i honestly do not care about Thales and also i do not care about Multi Peer Reviews.

          the first one "Thales" its because i did proof to you that Thales violate multible logic and math and common sense axioms. it is just Abrahamic​ relativism to make sure you never need to admit that there is any absolut truth even if i clearly proofed to you that absolute truth do in fact exist.
          and multi peer review is complete failure if 1 stupid person to stupid to unterstand fail then this logic claim that 1000 other to stupid idiots will be able to proof the first stupid person right and this goes on and on until a very smart person comes and proof them all wrong.

          by the way nice try BBC... any mainstream media is complete hoax.

          Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
          Please note it was not just USA parties watching USA elections. Multi countries for major countries send intelligence agents to watch elections for outside or inside interference. If the election rigging on as large scale as Rudoph Glulian was claiming we have example of what this looks like the recent Russia election there is video tapes and thousands of documents covering that Russia election fraud.
          you can watch all you want in the end you can watch all your life and never unterstand anything.
          because watching is not a skill and watching is not a asset of meritocratic value.
          the most stupid person on earth can watch something of course without any result.
          and your Russia election fraud claims i already told you that i do not believe in democracy this means you can not even perform election fraud because every election is fraud and forgery.

          Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
          qarium studies of elections around the world say without being detected with evidence it cannot be that much.
          The most you can move a vote from by hard to detect means max 15% yes a swing change of about 7.5% any more than this clear cut evidence in video footage and so on turns up.
          2020
          Biden 51.3%
          Trump 46.9%
          Yes this is close enough that hidden interfernece could have altered the outcome. Yes as high as trump would get with hard to detect interference against him is 55% with Biden at ~43%.
          15% or 7.5% does not sound that much but you never need that much in the usa you have a 2 party system and the country is always divided 50:50 this means 7,5% means 50%-7,5% = 42,5%
          50+7,5=57,5%..
          this is the swing vote logic... in a country always devided by 50:50 you do not need 51% of the voters to win a election. you only need 5% swing voters who are willing to vote against their own best interest this means with only 5% of the voters you can win the election.

          did you remember there is a hollywood movie about this swing vote effect...
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swing_Vote_(2008_film)

          this movie was used for pre programmingt he masses to get obama elected.-..

          "On November 4, 2008, Obama defeated the Republican nominee, Senator John McCain of Arizona, making him the president-elect and the first African American elected president.​"

          in a 2 party democracy like the usa and a 50:50 devided country like the USA the 7,5% is all you need to always win.

          Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
          qarium the claim that Trump got 80% of the vote is outside the range of credibility now Rudoph Glulian had been a Thales is smart to study history would have only claimed 55 to 60% of vote not 80% garbage his bull crap claims would not be as simple to spot. Also something else a person doing their second term back to back around the world normally loses up-to 20% of their prior vote. This is why it kind of stupid that Biden is standing for a second term. If you want term in office in the the smart move by research is get into office once let another candidate run for the next 2 terms in office then stand again. This gets you out from under being blamed for all the current government issues. No country is without issues that as being the current person in charge that you are going to be blamed for so effecting means to be re-voted back in.
          you claim something different than i did say... you say i did claim 80% of the voters did vote for trump
          this exactly this i did NEVER say i said 80% of the legitimate voters did vote for trump.
          there is a long long list of humans who are not legitimate voters who did vote anyway.

          "is outside the range of credibility"

          i surly don't think so.

          "now Rudoph Glulian"

          i do not care about Rudoph Glulian at all...

          "Thales is smart to study history would have only claimed 55 to 60% of vote not 80% garbage his bull crap"

          looks like you do not know the mechanics of lies... a lie is always created in a way that you believe it
          if i would be a liar then i would had claimed your 55-60% just to be sure you believe the lie.
          it it the truth and you can easily detect this by the logic of lie the 80% is so high that you would NEVER believe it.
          this means by the logic of lies this 80% number must be the truth because it does not fit in the liars schema.

          but of course you call the truth: bull crap ... but if i would lie to you and would say 55-60% then you would have accepted the lie... this just shows how low your brain vibrates.

          "claims would not be as simple to spot"

          i already told you it was not simple to get this 80% number they created a very complex system to get this number.

          just keep in mind a iligitimate person like a immigrant without US passport goes voting no one stops them the vote is even counted and all looks find for the fraudsters but the military has seperat system who count separately and they do not count the immigrants vote who was not allowed to vote.
          in 2020 the public did get get information about this secret counting of the us military.
          as i already said the us military forces accepted donald trump as commander in chief in 2020-2024
          and joe biden is just a puppet without power.

          "Also something else a person doing their second term back to back around the world normally loses up-to 20% of their prior vote."

          they always start a war and of course they mostly always struggle from economic downturn as always (for over 52 years the us economy never had any other status)
          but in tump case it was strong economic upwards thats the reason why donald trump did get the 80%

          "This is why it kind of stupid that Biden is standing for a second term."

          biden died in 2008 in ukraine and a rubber mask wearing actor can not run for a second term
          and of course he will not run ...

          "If you want term in office in the the smart move by research is get into office once let another candidate run for the next 2 terms in office then stand again."

          donald trump did it much more clever he ruled from 2016-2020 then he did let the puppet rubber mask wearing actor joe biden win a rigged election and donald trump then ruled as shadow president from 2020-2024 and donald rump will of course against the law rule from 2024-2028 to... it is against the law because donald trump was us president from 2020-2024.

          "This gets you out from under being blamed for all the current government issues."

          this is only relevant if you are a democrat fraudster candiate in trump case he did really fix the problems.
          then you of course do not need to fear this.

          "No country is without issues"

          thats not the point the point is that democrat candidates make more problems and donald trump solve problems and fix it for real.

          Originally posted by oiaohm View Post

          The 16% swing against trump when standing for his second term back to back in 2020 was right in the expected normal voter backlash against the person currently in power in 2020.
          your expected voter statistics are clearly fraud and not real... its the mass media performing gaslighting on the population.

          Originally posted by oiaohm View Post

          Nothing in fact looks abnormal with the USA 2020 election when compared to elections around the world be it country or company elections... If biden wins 2024 this will be abnormal he really did not win by enough in 2020 to be standing for a second term and expecting to win.
          joe biden rubber mask actor will not run for the 2024 election he will resign...

          Originally posted by oiaohm View Post

          Yes trump did not win in 2016 by enough to really stand in 2020 and win another term either.
          your voter statistics you declare as the truth is nothing but fraud and not true at all.

          Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
          ​​
          Biden and Trump here has not learnt from the historic mistakes of those wanting second term back to back that you need to massively win the first term by 70 to 80% to be able to safely win a second term.
          clearly wrong what you talk here. no past vote in a election has any effect on a future vote.
          humans can decide freely to complete vote differently in the future.

          what you do here is gaslighting and hypernormalisation this techique is used to establish a lie as a truth.

          Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
          ​​​
          Of course there are outliers and Biden is betting that he is going to be outlier.

          This above claim has been studied. Only thing for sure is second term approval rating will be lower. So less votes by up to 20% . Of course we have never had a case before of two people wanting to be USA President who have both had their first term to see if those cancels out the second term effect of lower approval.
          well in this topic wikipedia can not be trusted and is not a trused source at all because wikipedia is the left-liberal-green establishment of the rules based world order... liberal world order.
          this alone shows that what you talk is nonsense...

          and then again... your second point: "Of course we have never had a case before of two people wanting to be USA President who have both had their first term to see if those cancels out the second term effect of lower approval."

          your second point shows you are totally wrong people can now chose from 2 people who where president in the past so this second term curse does not apply at all... and the people had happier time with trump this makes it easy for the people to drop biden.

          Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
          ​​​
          Studies Biden due to be the most resent in office will have the most amount of voter backlash to counter but Trump will also not free of voter backlash from his term in office.
          trump will clearly win but probem is it is against the law that trump become president in 2024-2028...
          because trump was president from 2020-2024...

          but keep in mind the Catholics have overtaken the surprime court means they could end the democratic republic at any time. the conservatives have the majority of the votes in the surprime court.

          Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
          ​​​​
          The country I am in you cannot be elected official of any form or government appointed official and be older than 70 years old at appointment with the longest term being 5 years the oldest you are allowed is 75 from the country I am in both Biden and Trump are too old so should not be running. Why the limit simple a reserve solider is allowed to be 65 years old and commander and chief of military role is not as heavy as what a foot solider is so is allowed 10 more years.
          my opinion is that age does not matter at all even a 10 year old children would do it if the 10 year old children is sane and sound and mature.

          second opinion i have is that any election is harmfull and devide the country and lead to riots at election time see in france total riot emerged ...

          elections should be banned and they should implement a lottery parliament who every legitimate citizen gets lottery ticket and then randomness should decide who becomes member of the parliament.


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          • Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
            When it comes to election fraud russians are way better than this person. Russian trolls claiming voting fraud normally are smart enough to some what believable numbers.
            Russian trolls are not using the made up garbage of Rudolph Giuliani. Russian have a very predictable playbook based on their own culture.
            i am clearly not a russian you can visit me in germany.

            also you clearly do not unterstand logic of lies.. liars do not use statistical abnormality numbers liars just tell you what you want to hear means you want to hear 55-60% then they give you exactly what you want the 55% - 60%...

            science studies about lies show that the more unbelievable a story is like the 80% i told you the more likely it is true.

            liars have predictable playbook they would use the 55-60% number to not make you reject it.
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            • Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
              There is a funding problem and a hosting problem. Not all fact checkers are the same.

              as so many times you contradict yourself first you claim they are not all the same.
              but then you say they need funding and they need hosting as you see they are all the same.
              because they need money this means they are corrupted by money and this factor alone proof that they do not tell the truth instead they tell whatever the funding source and the hosting source wants from them.

              Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
              ​In fact they are not the same as Correct.
              Eleven years ago, the first formal fact check was published at the ABC. A lot has been fact checked between then and now — here's how to spot a dubious claim.

              Yes the government run one has gone away.

              Australian Associated Press is a peer review. All press in Australia funds this operation.
              Do notice logo at bottom of app page.
              Where is the german Correcttv peer reviewer stated its not. The Australian Associated Press factcheck states there peer review group that the ifcn.
              What is the International Fact-Checking Network? The International Fact-Checking Network (IFCN) at Poynter was launched in 2015 to bring together the growing community of fact-checkers around the world. The network […]

              Yes being part of ifcn is being willing to have your methods and source information inspected by other parties.
              Next why is Correcttv hosted on a USA .org and using USA hosting. So placing itself outside German law yet it reviewing German content. So German law cannot be applied against false claims.
              Yes you are absolutely right items like Correcttv should not be trusted as a fact checker because they don't pass Thales requirements. A peer reviewer has to be able to be peer reviewed is a requirement of Thales due to known human error.
              so you admit the usa hosted corrective fact checker website and group is fake and hoax... thank you very much thats was my point. exactly they act like criminals and avoid german law so they can lie and perform hoax stories without ever going to court in germany.

              now next step is you claim your other fact checkers the Thales correct one they are the serious people and they are not fake but as you say they need and have a funding problem and a hosting problem this means their need for money will corrupt them. and with enough money you find a peer review group who claim any lie is a truth it is only a matter of how much money you want to spend to rig the science system this can be best seen with the Climate change CO2 story.

              isn't it funny that all these peer reviewers also need money ??? and they are also corrupted by greed for money.

              Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
              To be a ifcn fact checker if you are using AI at all it has to be a open source AI model or it does pass the requirements.
              ​yes of course open-source or nothing,..

              Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
              Rules of Thales is important.,
              AI fact checker of Australia has no code relationship to ChatGPT. The Australian fact check AI was not built to pass the turing test. It was built particular to check the factional nature of statements at RMIT Australia. Yes there is a open source model of it and it does not attempt to fool a human that it human instead is more like a over grown spell/grammar checker instead of grading grammar and spelling its grading how factually based something is. This form of AI comes out of engines use for AI assisted marking of assignments and the like.
              i am pretty sure that these mainstream media TV shows with AI fact checkers are nothing but a disinformation campaign. the reason for this is that the AI models are trained with common data of common people.
              the common data of common people is highly biased and has nothing to do with truth.

              Originally posted by oiaohm View Post

              As I said the turing test is the not a good test. Marking correctness test is a different test because there is right and wrong answers.
              to me it looks like that answers who known to be correct or wrong are from very trivial questions
              and non-trivial questions do not have answers you can fit in correct or wrong category.

              Originally posted by oiaohm View Post

              qarium not all fact checkers are created equal. Not all systems around the world are as busted as the USA or the German ones. I am not saying the Australian system is perfect but when it comes to political debates and how they should be moderated Australia does a reasonable job.
              even the word "fact-checker" is a psychological-operation to make you believe other people and not YOU need to check if the facts are true or false.

              "Not all systems around the world are as busted as the USA"

              i life in germany and the german system is as busted as the US system...

              "or the German ones"

              yes and the Australian system will save us all of course.

              "I am not saying the Australian system is perfect but when it comes to political debates and how they should be moderated Australia does a reasonable job."

              the reasonable moderation is NO MODERATION AT ALL
              in the time of internet any moderation is censorship.

              Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
              qarium the Australian system demo how this should be done.
              i am pretty sure that no moderation at all and no censorship at all is the better system than the perfect censorship moderation in Australia.

              Originally posted by oiaohm View Post

              Yes I absolute agree Correcttv should not be trusted at all because it does not pass the requirements Thales put down.
              then happily me and you and thales agree on this corrective website ...

              the requirements Thales clearly fail against central banking capitalism who all the fact checkers need money and all the peer review reports are fake because they need CO2 climate change money.

              Originally posted by oiaohm View Post

              The fact checker systems used by Australian in political debates are somewhat trustable due to the fact they are Thales passing ones with peer review and open inspection how they come up with results.
              its not trustable because only non-complex questions can have correct or false answer and complex questions can not be checked.
              this means you limit the debate to a kindergarden level without any complexity or else the AI system fails to fact check anything.

              "they are Thales passing ones with peer review and open inspection how they come up with results."

              this all does not help for fast situational contexts​ because he situation never comes again and the situation did never exist in the past. it is like your Second-term curse​ and then you discover that both biden and also trump suffer from Second-term curse​ this is what i mean with situational context in situations like that the AI fact checker can not save you.

              Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
              ​​
              qarium define pass the turing test as well lot of ChatGPT4
              Most people couldn't distinguish ChatGPT from a human responder, suggesting the famous Turing test has been passed for the first time.

              Do note the word "most people" could not tell. Yes you check into the papers you find since over 50 percent of people could not pick GPT-4 it passes. One problem I human will not pick a human as not human 60% of the time. GPT-4 has not reached human levels of deception yet.
              right i think this is true.

              Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
              ​​
              Passing the turing test is useless if you are after AI to help with marking papers, validating results.... basically everything useful other than putting humans out of a job writing documents/reports that can be totally faked.

              i agree with you fully here. turing test has no real world value.
              this skill can not be used for anything usefull... only criminals use it to fake reports and documents..
              yes you are right.

              Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
              ​​
              There is problems common people are starting to use ChatGPT to grade papers something that been designed to win deception competitions..... Yes you can bet a lot of work that should be marked incorrect will be marked correct and the reverse undermining student learning.
              you are absolutly right here this is horrible but it is exactly what i told you... i told you OpenAI/chatGPT3/4 is a disinformation campaign. it is even worst than a disinformation campaign.,..

              and you are right it is designed to win deception competitions ... and people use it for serious work and this will of course undermine students learning.

              this is very sad. but what can we do ? i would say to ban closed source AI would be a start it clearly should be open-source.
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              • Originally posted by oiaohm View Post


                you mean this "2000 Mules is a 2022 American conspiracist[4][5][6][7] political film from right-wing political commentator Dinesh D'Souza.​" and "Dinesh Joseph D'Souza (/dɪˈnɛʃ dəˈsuːzə/; born April 25, 1961) is an Indian-American right-wing[1][2][3] political commentator, conspiracy theorist, author, filmmaker and convicted felon who received a Presidential pardon by Donald Trump for his crimes.​"

                to me wikipedia is not a trusted source the wikipedia is part of the liberal world order/rules based order of the left-liberal-green establishment ... in political topics whatever wikipedia writes i do not believe it. because i know and i can proof that that wikipedia is complete fraud and hoax.

                if you follow this youtube channel:
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                from this person:


                then you can discover that wikipedia is complete fake and hoax and is manipulated and cheated in every aspect.

                i did watch many such documentaries about wikipedia it is mostly rigged by left-liberal-green establishment and israel.

                Originally posted by oiaohm View Post

                Problem author of the 2000 mules is known for false data and this is before 2020. There is no evidence of any voter fraud in the 2020 election.
                The reality whats in 2000 mules fails closer inspection.
                Yes written in the wikipedia
                problem is that wikipedia is known for false data and wikihausen/Dirk_Pohlmann proof it 1000 of times.

                written in the wikipedia means nothing i have over 1000 edits on wikipedia to and as a wikipedia author i know it is all fake and hoax. you can not believe wikipedia in political topics.
                you can only believe wikipedia in technical topics or about mathematics or computer science
                but politics not its clearly scam for politics.

                Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
                qarium yes that 2000 Mules footage turns out not to show what it claimed. Peer review is important. Yes prior Dinesh D'Souza so called prior documentataries have the same problems. His stuff never passes peer review and normally end up with him losing in court to different parties who put in the effort to sue.


                i have different opinion about peer reviewers they need money and because of this a person with enough money can simple buy these people to fake a peer review report.

                wikipedia is fake and fraud to and wikipedia and you can proof this and i showed you youtube channel who only does this and also wikipedia also does not perform peer review reports.

                why do you use wikipedia if wikipedia does not perform peer review reports ?

                Originally posted by oiaohm View Post

                Countries with Compulsory voting that enforced this does not happen.

                Yes only 10 countries in the world.
                195 countries only 10 can do voting as Thales says you should. So roughly 5% of countries get it right and 95% get it wrong so of course you see this problem everywhere..


                exactly this problem is everywhere and as you say only 10 countries do it right.. as you say 95% do it wrong.
                but then tell me why do you want a system who 95% of all people do it wrong?
                compulsory voting is highly inpractical and in a country with compulsory voting the citizens literally do not have freedom at all.

                why not a lottery parliament. with such a lottery parliament you get the same result with much less pain.

                also keep in mind like in france every election ends in riots and violence if you do not have elections at all in a lottery parliament all this bad stuff will never happen...

                Originally posted by oiaohm View Post

                This would be ideal Thales but this also does not happen.


                so you admit that the lottery parliament would be the ideal "Thales" based system...

                well then tell me why do we not try this instead of democracy elections ?

                Originally posted by oiaohm View Post

                With compulsory voting you get what that number is of people who don't want to vote even if your force them. About 1 in 10 people don't want to vote or cannot vote when you have compulsory voting.
                Yes you have less than 90% turn out in a election you have a problem. Also is worse than you think.
                all these problems do not exist in a lottery parliament ... every citizen gets a lottery ticket and randomness decide who gets place in the parliament.

                Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
                ​​
                Take the 2017 german election since you raise german all the time
                Winner got 42% of the vote right. The turn out was only 76.2% so what percentage of the population in fact supported the winner. 42*0.762=32% of the population.
                exactly you are right and this 32% minority believe they are the majority and they can rule over the majority.
                but a lottery parliament would not have this problem at all.
                in a lottery system you do not have a turn out of voting quota in the election.

                Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
                ​​​
                2020 usa election only had a 66.9% turn out and Biden the winner got 51.3%​ lets run the maths. 51.3*0.669 that right biden only had by this vote ~34.3% of the population who can vote supporting him. Trump 46.9*0.669 only about 32% of the population who can vote. Yes roughly 1/3 of the USA population did not vote for either of them and if that if there is no fake votes.


                the official numbers are clearly wrong and also a lottery parliament does not have this problem
                a lottery parliament really represent the complete society and the complete population.

                Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
                ​​​
                Really even with all the claimed fraud votes removed neither party has over 50% of the population behind them.
                Really ideal system you want that the party for a key role like a president has to cross the line of 50% of the population who can vote not that do vote.
                Yes the 2020 USA election really was not that far off to being the the point that the people who did not vote outnumbered the Winner. Yes if the fake votes claim in the USA 2020 are true this simple means that the people who did not vote have a larger percentage than either Biden or Trump got so by Thales neither should have been given power because neither candidate was suitable.


                "either Biden or Trump got so by Thales neither should have been given power because neither candidate was suitable."

                well you are a little slower than me because i already told you that any election should be banned.
                with a lottery parliament you would not have stupid election fight between 2 kingpins like donald trump and joe biden.
                a election for the presidency of the usa is just a show run for narcissists​ and the bigger narcissists​ wins.

                and these Narcissists gaslight the rest of the population into believe that they are the king of the country.

                Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
                ​​​​
                This is another problem why is the winner calculated in elections based on the numbers of people who voted not the number of people who could have voted. This is another form of rigging. Math classes teach about elections they also teach all the maths you need to see the rigging right? Notice most school math text books don't cover layered percentage operations like I just did because teaching that makes it too simple to see how voter turn out results in a not popular person in fact being given power.
                you are absolutely right here in germany math teachers are forced to teach democracy but they do not teach to correctly calculate the rigging of the election.
                this is really horrible.
                you are absolutly right the mathematic classes of today do not teach the necessary math skills to understand a democratic election.

                and if they do not unterstand the mathematics of a election they of course put a unpopular person into power.​
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                • Originally posted by qarium View Post
                  you claim something different than i did say... you say i did claim 80% of the voters did vote for trump
                  this exactly this i did NEVER say i said 80% of the legitimate voters did vote for trump.
                  there is a long long list of humans who are not legitimate voters who did vote anyway.
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                  Donald Trump won the 2020 US election with 80% of all valid votes.
                  That you claim.
                  Take my posts.
                  2020 usa election only had a 66.9% turn out and Biden the winner got 51.3%​ lets run the maths. 51.3*0.669 that right biden only had by this vote ~34.3% of the population who can vote supporting him. Trump 46.9*0.669 only about 32% of the population who can vote. Yes roughly 1/3 of the USA population did not vote for either of them and if that if there is no fake votes.

                  Lets say what you wrote is true to the level Trump claimed . Remember Trump claimed he won 80% of the real vote. By the counted vote 32% of the possible population voted for Trump 32/0.8 gives you 40% of the population voted. The reality here to come USA president there is a min vote number of the election has to be called a wash and redone and 40% is under this number.
                  By the way the min percentage is fun to find with the USA messed up with all the different state rules over elections.

                  qarium 80% of what you call valid votes does not mean Trump won. The reality is even if you take that number Trump still loses. Trump did not in 2020 have the required votes to come president due to the way the USA system works.

                  Rudy Giuliani
                  The Technology Used in the 2000 Mules Documentary. Guests: Catherine Engelbrecht and Gregg Phillips: With Rudy Giuliani, Catherine Engelbrecht, Gregg Phillips.

                  Look at the cast of 2000 Mules. Yes you are quoting Rudoph Glulian.

                  looks like you do not know the mechanics of lies... a lie is always created in a way that you believe it
                  if i would be a liar then i would had claimed your 55-60% just to be sure you believe the lie.
                  it it the truth and you can easily detect this by the logic of lie the 80% is so high that you would NEVER believe it.
                  this means by the logic of lies this 80% number must be the truth because it does not fit in the liars schema.​
                  A win 55-60% would have left enough votes to allow the USA electoral collage system to appoint Trump without causing stacks of seats to abstain to the point of failure to appoint resulting in having to redo election.
                  Rudoph Giuliani is not a smart fibber. 80% is too much to claim Trump got that votes by because that number no way Trump can win. That number is a redo election due to the way the election collage would fail in the USA. Mind you I would have loved to see the USA election collage system in 2020 go splat fail and force a re run of the election and that would have been the first time in history.

                  i am clearly not a russian you can visit me in germany.
                  German due to USSR rule percentage of Russian logic is taught but not enough to be skilled. You are not clearly not Russian online and this has history cause. USSR ruling over west germany has left you Germans with a percentage of broken Russian deception tricks of course you are not as skilled as a Russian to know how to use them correctly.

                  You could visit me there is problem my family is about half German and half Russian. I understand what you have picked up from the Russians. If you don't learn what you have picked up from Russian culture you will keep on being called a Russian troll. As I said you are not skilled enough to be a Russian troll you are getting things wrong they would not get wrong. But you are also using Russian deception methods of argument.

                  The Russians Trolls are more skilled liars than you.

                  liars do not use statistical abnormality numbers liars just tell you what you want to hear means you want to hear 55-60% then they give you exactly what you want the 55% - 60%...
                  This is not true either. Liars like Russians claiming how many HIMARS​ they have destroyed exceed all possible numbers as well. Election fraud russians This is a particular area where Russians are more skilled it due to their education. qarium you are not Russian because you don't have the Russian Education to see and perform election fraud in some what believable way.

                  A liar can only say a believable lie
                  1) if they can work out what the believable value is. (items you find in the Russian schools math classes required here for elections including fun of turning law text into maths)
                  2) they are lucky.

                  Reality the Rudoph Giuliani is none of the above. You are also none of the above because you keep on pushing a unbelievable number. The reality is if Trump did get 80% of the vote the election was a wash in 2020 and would have had to be redone because the system to appoint president would have broken.

                  my opinion is that age does not matter at all even a 10 year old children would do it if the 10 year old children is sane and sound and mature.
                  No age does matter when job is something like the USA president. Jet lag and other forms of disrupted sleep issues.
                  A 15-day simulated jet lag experiment was performed in a time isolation laboratory using 15 old women (79-91 years, mean 82.9 years) and 10 old men (71-86 years, mean 80.5 years). After five full days and nights on the subject's habitual routine, the waketime of night 6 was advanced by 6 h, truncati …

                  The following is what got Biden in recent debate.
                  However, sleep disruption (and daytime sleepiness) appeared to be longer lived in the elderly, showing little of the recovery over time observed in younger subjects.

                  As you get older you means to burn the candle at both ends gets less and less. This is why 70 is limit for head of military here. The human body has limits one of them is less means to deal with sleep disruption as you get past 65..

                  Also a 10 year old child is not suitable for another reason.

                  Yes 9-12 hours in sleep required. Yes adult can get away with 7 and stay health. 2 to 5 hours of work loss to per day with a 10 year old doing the job.

                  qarium basically there are medical reasons why neither Trump or Biden should be the president of the USA. Both are too old to have to deal with sleeping at random times as what is required when wars and the like break out. Yes both are not going to be able to maintain focus due to their age combined with sleep disruption the job of USA president will require. Yes the 10 year old is too young you because they will not be able to stay awake for enough hours. Between 19-70 is the range ages person need to be in with bias to the lower end of that range to have good recovery after sleep disruption.

                  Please note I am not saying the elderly don't have their place. Elderly doing training of the next generation and the like where they don't have to mess up their sleeping patterns is a good use to them.

                  The idea that Age does not matter is a flawed thing. Age matters in some jobs. Sane and sound and mature and medicinally able to do the job. Yes medically able to do the job age does come a factor. USA president and roles like it has job requirements that are not elderly friendly.

                  Please note there are two ages. "Chronological age​" that measured from the time your are born. Biological age​ that based on how your body is functioning. Yes that 19-70 is "Chronological age​" in a person who has done nothing to cause their Biological age to progress abnormally. So it might be possible for someone who is 16 years old to have a body of a 19 year old because their biological age as progressed quickly. The 70 is 5 years over what is advisable so 70 and be find body has to be aging slower than the average by a decent margin.

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                  • Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
                    Dictator who break their own laws and get prosecuted for them are human they failed to change the law before they broken them.
                    this is nonsense because they do not even have to change the laws because they are also the highest judge in their country and no other judge can overrule his ruling. this means even if he does not change the law no one can court him because he is the highest judge and he decide otherwise.

                    Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
                    You cannot have people follow laws if you don't publish them.
                    in a democratic republic you have to publish them right in a dictatorship this is not the case.
                    keep in mind in the last 10000 years for example in the nordic germanic tribes published on paper laws are not that old and in the most time of the last 10000 years means more than 9000 years there was never a published law. there was only verbally traditions passed from the old generation to the new generation remembered
                    and applied by the local leader. and in the case of the case a ruling NOT based on these remembered verbal transmitted traditions was also accepted means the law was never published then someone did violate the law and was punished it was the good will or bas will what was ruled on and you was punished for your crime even if no law was ever published prohibit your doing.
                    this clearly shows that your complete mindset is formed in a democratic republic and you expect on paper published laws like in a democratic republic. but well a democratic republic in the last 10000 years was never a long time phenomenon.
                    and published on paper laws are even bad because you can exploid it much more easily than you can exploid a non-writen traditional local leader is the judge without writen law because any kind of bad and ill behavior will be punished and you will not find a loop-hole in the writen law to escape punishment.
                    because of all the loop-holes to escape punishment my opinion is that modern writen and published laws of the democratic republics are dysfunctional and bad. a traditional verbal law system like in the nordic germanic pagan tribes 1000 of years ago is much better because the tolerance for loop-holes to exploit the law was zero.
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                    • Originally posted by qarium View Post
                      this is nonsense because they do not even have to change the laws because they are also the highest judge in their country and no other judge can overrule his ruling. this means even if he does not change the law no one can court him because he is the highest judge and he decide otherwise.
                      Someone was a sleep in history class. Julius Caesar you should have learnt about the roman dictator and his death. Julius Ceaser classic military coup model of "Trial in Absentia" of dictator by peers then the dictator being executed by peers.

                      The highest judge in all systems is always the jury of peers​. Remember if someone has peer power to the dictator they can prosecute them the method can be quite nasty. Yes head of military pulled a coup over existing dictator does happen so does Military coups over a Military coup.

                      There is something important here as a dictator if put your self above the law you should expect you will be have a "Trial in Absentia" done against you by people with peer power to you. Then the people who took part in that "Trial in Absentia" come and execute you. Of course those doing the "Trial in Absentia" will only be using what are classed as published laws and possible their own new minted laws..

                      Remember "Trial in Absentia" no right to plead your case that what you were doing was right. This is the downside of being a Dictator who does not obey the rule of law.

                      Originally posted by qarium View Post
                      in a democratic republic you have to publish them right in a dictatorship this is not the case.
                      ​This is you being wrong. A democratic republic can also attempt not to publish laws. The state secrets stuff. But this has the problem that this will normally be view though the lens of the published laws.

                      Dictatorship not publishing laws has to be always been looking out for the next person planing to kill them. There is advantage to not putting oneself above the law even as a dictator. The advantage is normally being able to pay garbage amount of money to compensate a person for the crimes you have committed as a dictator. This garbage amount of money lowers the discontent and reduces the numbers of people who want to kill person who is the dictator.

                      Yes wise Dictator writes laws and uses his power to over ride laws to make all his punishments for breaking the laws pay compensation so to appear understanding to the people.

                      Absolute immunity to law when you look at history is generally a mistake and is a path to assassination. Part immunity to laws is effective. Part immunity as in cannot be jailed or killed for crimes only has to pay damages by history is the safe route.

                      Originally posted by qarium View Post
                      keep in mind in the last 10000 years for example in the nordic germanic tribes published on paper laws are not that old and in the most time of the last 10000 years means more than 9000 years there was never a published law. there was only verbally traditions passed from the old generation to the new generation remembered
                      and applied by the local leader. and in the case of the case a ruling NOT based on these remembered verbal transmitted traditions was also accepted means the law was never published then someone did violate the law and was punished it was the good will or bas will what was ruled on and you was punished for your crime even if no law was ever published prohibit your doing.
                      Nordic germanic is not uniform. Something you have to remember published does not always mean text or on paper. I know from Australian aboriginal that laws were recorded in particular caves as cave art some of these law arts are over 10000BC old. There is question if it was pure verbally traditions or that today we just don't have the skill any more to read the old nordic germanic artworks to see the recorded/published law. Particular cultures around the world older than the Nordic germanic have art recorded laws.

                      There is more than 1 way to publish a law. Yes if no law is published/transmitted to tell people from not doing something and your kill everyone doing that crime there is a chance you kill your complete population. Yes a form of publishing a law is like public executions and so on is important to keep the number of criminals livable amount.

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