GNOME 46 Released With Improved Search, Experimental VRR & More Polish

[qarium]

So you're equating the terms "desktop-focused" and "Windows-like".

well if you want to interpret it like this. but this has nothing to do with windows just keep in mind MACOS 7 from 1995 also had all these ugly control buttons and stuff. and people like my mother had a apple computer in 1995 they are used to have these ugly control buttons and all.
if you start firefox with gnome it has no ugly stuff it is borderless has no frame and so one.
remember the old gnome2 days ? it was similar than macos7.0/8.0 it had a lot of ugly stuff,. modern macos also did get rid of it.
your counter argument that i only mean windows-like and this means desktop focused is nonsense because old macos version like 7.1 and old gnome versions also had all the ugly stuff inside.

modern gnome did get rid of all the ugly buttons and all the ugly frames and so one.

and in the end now it looks great but many people struggle to use it because all the ugly stuff did in fact increase usability. yes it looks like shit but it us usefull

[Myownfriend]

its the usability and the factor that it is "Ugly" gnome loses a lot of usability just by making it look nice the apple mac os style.

compared to this cinnamon is ugly but most people i know like my old mother she has hard time adabt the usability to non-ugly systems.

So you're equating the terms "desktop-focused" and "Windows-like".

[qarium]

But again, what is that supposed to mean? All having floating windows, multiple workspaces, mouse input, a bunch of keyboard shortcuts, multi-monitor support, etc. What exactly makes Cosmic and Cinnamon more "desktop focused"?

its the usability and the factor that it is "Ugly" gnome loses a lot of usability just by making it look nice the apple mac os style.

compared to this cinnamon is ugly but most people i know like my old mother she has hard time adabt the usability to non-ugly systems.

[QwertyChouskie]

Sadly, the added natural feel of the touchpad gestures (which do feel good, I agree) does not make up for totally destroying the virtual desktop flow.

As stated above, on my 2560x1440 laptop panel the virtual desktop thumbnails end up as less than 100x50 px tiny boxes, which basically destroys any usability of the feature: I have to carefully aim with my mouse for more than a second (it's even worse with the touchpad) every time I want to move a window to a virtual desktop. And once again, it is even worse if I want to create a new desktop, which means I have to aim between the tiny boxes.

There's an extension that lets you change the size of the thumbnails, along with some other handy tweaks: https://extensions.gnome.org/extensi...-improvements/

[Myownfriend]

to me it looks like COSMIC and Cinnamon are more focused on desktop work than gnome.

But again, what is that supposed to mean? All having floating windows, multiple workspaces, mouse input, a bunch of keyboard shortcuts, multi-monitor support, etc. What exactly makes Cosmic and Cinnamon more "desktop focused"?

[qarium]

What is that supposed to mean?

to me it looks like COSMIC and Cinnamon are more focused on desktop work than gnome.

[Myownfriend]

it really looks like the sane desktop people are on COSMIC and Cinnamon now.

i am on gnome and i use gnome but i clearly have to admit that ir is OS for smartphone or touchscreen tabled and not desktop/laptop OS...

What is that supposed to mean?

[Daydream]

I don't understand why the full app names can't be seen on the big screen.
Can it be set somehow?

I love GNOME, but the new Overview is really a horrible step back — because on my 2560x1440 laptop screen, the virtual desktop thumbnails end up to 90x50(!) pixels in size, which is completely unusable.

If either of you are open to customizing your shell, V-Shell extension addresses both of your "issues" and more.

[qarium]

Forcing a touch interface? Just click, bro. Not that hard. There's a reason why there's now pointer events on the web instead of just mouse or touch events. Pointer events combine touch and mouse events because a mousemove/touchmove, mousedown/touchstart, mouseup/touchend are generally used at the same time for the same purposes.
You don't want to or can't touch your screen? Then use your mouse. You're not forced to do anything. Got a lot of people with a victim complex on here about software they don't use. Gnome is a hell of a lot better than any interface you'd create.

it really looks like the sane desktop people are on COSMIC and Cinnamon now.

i am on gnome and i use gnome but i clearly have to admit that ir is OS for smartphone or touchscreen tabled and not desktop/laptop OS...

my mother is on Cinnamon it is classic windows desktop experience and COSMIC really looks like the new shit in town.

[chocolate]

Do you perhaps know what exactly parts of Pop!_OS are responsible for the pre-40 overview? Is it an extension, or a patched Shell, or something else?

I love GNOME, but the new Overview is really a horrible step back — because on my 2560x1440 laptop screen, the virtual desktop thumbnails end up to 90x50(!) pixels in size, which is completely unusable.

Yeah, it seems to be a set of extensions curated by s76, plus "Ubuntu AppIndicators".
This page has a list of built-in extensions excluding Ubuntu AppIndicators:

https://pop-os.github.io/docs/customize-pop/gnome-tweaks-extensions/gnome-extensions.html

It seems correct and up to date to me, since it's what I see with the Extensions flatpak:
link to image because the forum's thingie is useless