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  • ssokolow
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    Originally posted by Estranged1906 View Post

    This, but unironically.
    To be perfectly honest, I'd have to think long and hard about it. My first impulsive reaction is "KDE is better than GNOME 2 is better than Windows 11 is better than macOS is better than GNOME 3". (Windows 11 is still much more hackable/customizable than macOS, where any avenues for UI customization that people find get squashed as bugs" but I'd have to decide whether I hate macOS's lockdown or GNOME's lack of a stable extension API more, given that I'd rely on the extension API to make GNOME more KDE-like than macOS if I used it.)

    ...but then I just got my equivalent to an SNES Classic about a week ago... a new-old-stock HP thin client from 2007 based on a VIA C7 and a replacement 8GB disk-on-module (it came with a 64MB one) that I've installed Windows 98 SE on. (I'm one of those "It's bad enough that weirdo Android-isms and Windows 10-esque widget-layout imperfections are creeping into KDE as they rewrite stuff from QWidget to Kirigami" people.)

    Running Win98SE on a CPU underclocked to 800MHz for thermal reasons (completely fanless device) and finding so much feel familiar and perfectly usable really does drive home how web browsers, games, the Rust compiler, H.265, and A.I. porn generators are the main things driving forward demand for faster CPUs and GPUs. (And, for that matter, having Win98SE's bitmap fonts make me feel "I returned from CRTs to my first non-laptop LCD panel! I'm home!" all over again, since I consider it not worth the expense and GPU heat to get HiDPI monitors and a GPU four times more powerful.)
    Last edited by ssokolow; 30 January 2024, 02:54 AM.

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  • QwertyChouskie
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    Originally posted by Estranged1906 View Post

    This, but unironically.
    I'd be curious to know if you've tried Gnome 40+, or only 3.x; and also whether you tried it on a desktop or laptop. Gnome 3.x was "meh" for me, butt with Gnome 40+ on my laptop, I have fallen in love with the spacial model/flow, it just feels super natural, especially with touchpad gestures.

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  • QwertyChouskie
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    Originally posted by Myownfriend View Post

    I agree. I thought the Gnome 3.x desktop looked pretty bad and didn't really like using it until 40. But while I think 40 great, I think what I really liked about it is how it's visual hierarchy conveyed how it can be used.

    Gnome 3.x used to have the workspace switcher in a second dock on the right and both it and the dash would be atop a darkened version of the desktop background. To switch to one you just clicked one of them workspaces in the switcher. Gnome 40 zooms the workspace out to reveal the dash and a peak at another workspace, then going into applications view zooms out even further so you can see all the workspaces. What was once done by basically clicking something on a workspace bar turned into just clicking the actual workspace to travel to it. Since workspaces in the overview look visually more like a gallery, you're likely to assume that you can scroll through them, which you can. Once something is stored on more than one workspace then the workspace switcher shows up again at the top of the screen but it mimics the look and function of workspaces in the application view.

    So it managed to improve usability while getting itself out of the gaudy early smart phone look.
    Agreed. The spacial flow of Gnome 40+ is amazing, it doesn't get enough attention IMO. Excited for Gnome Shell Mobile for this exact reason as well.

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  • Hibbelharry
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    Originally posted by Estranged1906 View Post
    This, but unironically.
    We all knew this would happen

    And it's okay if you do. Use whatever you like most and thats just fine. I happen to be one of those who like gnome3 pretty much, you might choose something else as your favourite, we both are well whatever we choose. No need to brag about that as different tastes are just human.

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  • Estranged1906
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    Originally posted by ssokolow View Post

    (Blah blah blah. "GNOME 2 was good but I'd take Windows 11 over GNOME 3" etc. etc. etc.)
    This, but unironically.

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  • darkbasic
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    Originally posted by dragonn View Post

    Simple, no one has wrote the kernel level code to wire that up.
    This is not something automatic and vendor specific or even model specific. They is no standardized way to handle it.
    Shouldn't this (https://www.phoronix.com/news/HP-BIOSCFG-For-Linux-6.6) allow you to change such BIOS options? If so it should just be a matter of wiring it up.

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  • dragonn
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    Originally posted by darkbasic View Post
    But I think that it should be possible to change it in Windows, so how is it not possible in Linux?
    Simple, no one has wrote the kernel level code to wire that up.
    This is not something automatic and vendor specific or even model specific. They is no standardized way to handle it.

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  • darkbasic
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    But I think that it should be possible to change it in Windows, so how is it not possible in Linux?

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  • darkbasic
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    Originally posted by dragonn View Post

    No, that is also not that. If your device doesn't have a kernel driver that couples into the BIOS setting this will not work. This is just a frontend to what is exposed in `/sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/`, if you device has charge_control_end_threshold in it it will work. And on most devices the charge_control_end_threshold is wired directly into BIOS hook.
    Ho too bad, my HP EliteBook 865 G10 doesn't expose it apparently:
    Code:
    $ ls /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/
    alarm capacity capacity_level cycle_count device energy_full energy_full_design energy_now hwmon2 manufacturer model_name power power_now present serial_number status subsystem technology type uevent voltage_min_design voltage_now

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  • dragonn
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    Originally posted by darkbasic View Post

    Oh so that's just basically a way to toggle the bios switch within your desktop environment? That sounds super useful, I've always found annoying to have to reboot in order to do so.
    No, that is also not that. If your device doesn't have a kernel driver that couples into the BIOS setting this will not work. This is just a frontend to what is exposed in `/sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/`, if you device has charge_control_end_threshold in it it will work. And on most devices the charge_control_end_threshold is wired directly into BIOS hook.

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