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  • movieman
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    Originally posted by BlackStar View Post
    Because some people keep valuable stuff on their systems. Music creation; 3d models; textures; retouched photos; book scripts; source code.
    And they'll lose them all if they're not backed up on a remote system. Compulsory version control is just silly; there's a reason why even Microsoft didn't copy it from VMS.

    Obviously, if you are concerned that someone might be monitoring your workstation, it would be best to minimize traces of your illegal activities - hence no Zeitgeist for you. :P
    Who said anything about illegality? There are many perfectly good commercial and personal reasons for not wanting your computer to save away every file you ever access and every web site you ever visit. Heck, Mozilla just put a new feature into Firefox to _prevent_ it from logging what you do because many users wanted that.

    If this goes into Gnome and can't be turned off, I'm not even sure we'll be able to justify using it at work anymore. For example, a while back I was given sample files from a customer which they required me to delete all copies of once we were done testing; how do I do that if the _windowing system_ is saving away copies in random places?

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  • cruiseoveride
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    And some people just dont want more features.

    If I wanted a feature fest i'd use KDE

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  • BlackStar
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    Originally posted by movieman View Post
    Not to mention that it's a security and privacy nightmare: if I wanted some database tracking every web page I ever visit, I'd move back to Britain.

    I'll never understand why some people believe that logging everything they ever do and keeping every version of every file on their system is a good idea.
    Because some people keep valuable stuff on their systems. Music creation; 3d models; textures; retouched photos; book scripts; source code.

    Note: this is orthogonal to regular backups. If I understand Zeitgeist correctly, it could work as a revision control system for your whole system.

    Obviously, if you are concerned that someone might be monitoring your workstation, it would be best to minimize traces of your illegal activities - hence no Zeitgeist for you. :P

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  • BlackStar
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    Originally posted by cruiseoveride View Post
    Sounds like a piece of shit.

    Keep Registry crap on Windows only please
    Non sequitur.

    As described, Zeitgeist looks like a replay or revision control system. It has abso-fucking-lutely nothing to do with the windows registry.

    There are many legitimate uses for such a system and it opens some pretty interesting possibilities if it's included by default. What possibilities? Think user assistance (your father loses his photos, you use Zeitgeist to retrace his steps and restore them), application testing (I did xyz and your application crashed, here is a Zeitgeist replay) and more.

    Of course, most people wouldn't understand innovation even if you spellt it, but that's ok. I, for one, like seeing features that aren't copied right out of commercial OSs.

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  • cruiseoveride
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    Sounds like a piece of shit.

    Keep Registry crap on Windows only please

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  • movieman
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    Not to mention that it's a security and privacy nightmare: if I wanted some database tracking every web page I ever visit, I'd move back to Britain.

    I'll never understand why some people believe that logging everything they ever do and keeping every version of every file on their system is a good idea.

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  • oyvind
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    I don't like to judge software before having tested it, but I'm pretty sure I would disable this one fast, if it came enabled by default on a fresh installation of, say, a future Ubuntu release. I've seriously given content indexers a try, but they mostly just waste system resources and add little value. The Locate program is very simple, but still often does the job. Besides, I rarely forget where I store things or what I work on.

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  • Milyardo
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    Originally posted by hax0r View Post
    Another epic fail IMO. I know where my files are and don't need any trackers indexing and grinding my disk down. I don't know why indexing is such a popular feature of many OSes. It's sad how much effort beagle and tracker received.
    The article doesn't mention Zeitgiest's long term goals, which may be why you believe it to be another indexing service. It shouldn't be thought of as Yet Another Desktop Indexer, but more like a desktop revision control system. Like bzr or git that doesn't require commits(or branches, or pushing and pulling of remote repo's or anything else that at normal desktop user wouldn't use).
    Last edited by Milyardo; 15 July 2009, 02:47 PM.

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  • mattmatteh
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    I hope this is not being integrated in to gnome apps ? I kinda think this stuff is already, gedit for example, will open a file and jump to the last location in the file. Seriously, its a simple text file, all that does is waste cpu and disk. I find this really annoying, which is why i ditched gedit.

    /me thinks about mouning ~ on tmpfs

    What bothers me the most is the useless disk access and wasted cpu.

    matt

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  • Pfanne
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    sounds interesting!
    but the data this program gathers is dangerous. imagine someone hacked you computer and knows when you stored what where and what you did with whom..

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