KDE Lands NVIDIA Hardware Cursor Support & Other Last Minute Plasma 6.0 Features

[woddy]

Nvidia is the most used GPU on Windows by far. If Linux wants users, it has to support it, unless it wants to stay at 2% of users forever.

Well! It doesn't depend on Linux whether to support Nvidia, it's Nvidia that has to support Linux since they use a proprietary driver Linux can't do almost anything about it.

[spicfoo]

Sorry, but this happens on nvidia too. Other day Mechwarrior 5 would simple refuse to load for a day on my Nvidia GTX 1650M TI. Next day started working again, so no AMD exclusive defect

Of course, Nvidia has bugs and compatibility issues just like any other graphics hardware. Only simps will defend Nvidia and deny that.

[spicfoo]

No, it is not. In fact, they were one of the first to offer a Wayland session

avis wants to pretend Xorg is maintenance free and everyone including Red Hat developers are lying when they say otherwise. You think he is going to believe you? He will ask you for links, then dismiss them and ask for git commits and probably call them fake as well. He is a Xorg truther.

[bug77]

62 comments, of which:
- 4 about KDE
- 8 about Wayland
- 50 about GPUs

That's par for the course
But your count is a bit off, my comment was about the developer that contributed this change (not a helpful comment, just in a different category).

[Vistaus]

Enlightenment Wayland session is highly experimental.

No, it is not. In fact, they were one of the first to offer a Wayland session.

LiquidShell is experimental and it's still KDE from what I see.

LiquidShell is not experimental as it's based on KDE. And no, it's not KDE, it's an alternative to KDE based on KDE. Kinda like how a Mazda CX-3 is an alternative to their smaller cars and is based on the Mazda 2 internally, but it's a different form factor.

XFCE maybe. IceWM/JWM.

I've tried Xfce a couple of times throughout the years on various distros and there were always some things that weren't fully working or the panel would crash. Maybe it's improved now with the GTK 3 port, but to call it stable… well, in my opinion it is not stable. Not experimental by a long shot, but not as rock solid as you make it out to be.

What about a graphical WM/DE independent clipboard manager?

There are a few, which one do you like best?

[Estranged1906]

62 comments, of which:
- 4 about KDE
- 8 about Wayland
- 50 about GPUs

[mcloud]

I don't know if I'd call it plenty, but damn near every single multi-GPU benchmark done on Phoronix it seems like there are 1 or 2 games that don't work on AMD for whatever reason. As someone who has used AMD GPUs for the past decade, that's been my experience, too. Occasionally 1 or 2 games will just stop working until something is fixed. Something can be anything from the kernel to Mesa to Proton to DXVK to Steam preload cache to ???.

You'll be playing a game, go to bed, start the game up the next day, and it'll just not launch or run.

I'm saying "games" up there, but I really mean "Steam games". They just up and quit working for a few hours to a day. It's damn annoying. I've never actually had these problems outside of Steam/Proton that didn't involve me doing source-built DXVK and Proton updates using 1337 optimizations.

Sorry, but this happens on nvidia too. Other day Mechwarrior 5 would simple refuse to load for a day on my Nvidia GTX 1650M TI. Next day started working again, so no AMD exclusive defect

[avis]

All of those features work on at least Enlightenment and LiquidShell, both of which I mentioned. (LiquidShell is based on KDE.)

Enlightenment Wayland session is highly experimental and is not available in Fedora yet.

LiquidShell is experimental and it's still KDE from what I see.

I need something tested and proven.

XFCE maybe. IceWM/JWM.

What about a graphical WM/DE independent clipboard manager?

[piotrj3]

780m is rated 15W and it's super efficient at that:

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-780m.c4020

There's no way mobile rtx 4060 is even usable at this power budget. Nvidia allows to decrease TDP at most by 50%.

Depends on GPU, for example my rtx 3070Ti allows dropping TDP to 32%. But I tried as well to test efficiency (power used vs FPS) every 5% of TDP and highest efficiency is somewhere between 45-60% TDP. It depends on clocks (stock vs overclocking) as well what are you doing. For example, OCed memory normally helps with efficiency, but moment you drop to 45-50% OCed memory actually loses efficiency. In general to every Nvidia Ampere desktop user (3000 serie) you can drop TDP to 70-75%, you will only lose max 5% of performance for way better efficiency.

[cj.wijtmans]

I was thinking about that in the Bcachefs article earlier. It gets a bug fix or performance enhancement and you have to upgrade your kernel, same thing happens with ZFS and you update the module. AMD/Intel and NVIDIA are the same. I have an AMD GPU and as much as I'd prefer to keep the kernel on LTS, I have to run Stable because of a single piece of hardware. The worst part is that AMD maintains an out of tree DKMS version in AMDGPU-Pro but it's only geared to work on Ubuntu, SUSE, and RHEL.

Finally a sane response unlike the spergs getting angry at someone criticized how linux works. The situation is not bad for me as i use gentoo and i can run whatever i want and easily add any patches i want. But from a general consumer perspective microkernel is just a better approach.