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  • woddy
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    Originally posted by rafanelli View Post


    Ok, about relevance. You said (what I reacted on):



    So you started to talk about Gnome's "reason to exist". I tried to help you be explaining what was that reason: not difference in interface (look for old screenshots: the difference in interface came much later), but a license issue. History lesson for you, but you do not seem to be able to understand it.
    I agree about the historical reason, but if it weren't for that reason, I suppose GTK Gnome would have been born regardless, as other DEs have been born.

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  • rafanelli
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    Originally posted by woddy View Post
    I don't understand the relevance! Gnome and Plasma are two different DEs, with different approaches and different interfaces and that's right if we want to be free to choose. I don't care in the slightest about the licenses or the reasons why Gnome was born.​


    Ok, about relevance. You said (what I reacted on):

    Originally posted by woddy View Post
    If KDE Plasma was like Gnome it would have no reason to exist.
    So you started to talk about Gnome's "reason to exist". I tried to help you be explaining what was that reason: not difference in interface (look for old screenshots: the difference in interface came much later), but a license issue. History lesson for you, but you do not seem to be able to understand it.
    Last edited by rafanelli; 23 November 2023, 04:59 AM.

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  • woddy
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    Originally posted by rafanelli View Post

    Gnome was a counter movement to KDE. KDE used Qt and the license of Qt was being made more open source compatible. Since this did not happen fast enough, Gnome was born by using Gimp's toolkit (GTK) instead of Qt to build a desktop env. It worked out quite well for them: they still exist and their product looks nice.

    While you'd expect Gnome to be the more "bazaar" style project compared to KDE, the opposite is true. Gnome seems to be more "cathedral" with corporate backing, and top down leadership. In the mean time the Qt lib has long been released under several open source licenses: GPL 2.0, GPL 3.0, LGPL 3.0 and LGPL 2.1 (with Qt special exception).
    I don't understand the relevance! Gnome and Plasma are two different DEs, with different approaches and different interfaces and that's right if we want to be free to choose. I don't care in the slightest about the licenses or the reasons why Gnome was born.​

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  • AlanTuring69
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    Originally posted by Hans Bull View Post

    Of course not. The usual gnomshitters littering KDE threads.
    Very smart to group all users of a competing desktop UI together when only a very small portion are cringe enough to flame other DEs on a random web forum.

    It's nice to see that KDE and GNOME are still very much both alive and kicking (along with Xfce) 15 years after I first used them. Can use them all for professional tasks.
    Last edited by AlanTuring69; 20 November 2023, 12:15 PM.

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  • mercster
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    Originally posted by mrg666 View Post
    I think this is "the" most important strength of Plasma. I have customized my Plasma functionality just as I need (no themes, just Breeze) and there is no other DE that can make me feel home any more.
    Yeah... other desktops make a lot more choices for you... and UI "connoisseurs" can come around and say "Oh this is scientifically proven to be sleek and intuitive" and blah blah blah... I've been working with Xwindow desktops for 30 years, I gotta have something that will do exactly what I tell it, and how. KDE is tops for that (XFCE ain't bad either, but last time I used it I still couldn't get an exact behavior I wanted, I don't remember what... I think it had to do with which icons show up on which of my two monitors... something goofy, but it bugged me.) I'm not sure many people realize the extreme degree to which you can modify the look, behavior, and everything else with KDE. (GNOME2 was good too.)

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  • mrg666
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    Originally posted by mercster View Post
    customization being the most important when it comes to BEHAVIOR, not necessarily "looks."
    I think this is "the" most important strength of Plasma. I have customized my Plasma functionality just as I need (no themes, just Breeze) and there is no other DE that can make me feel home any more.

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  • mercster
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    There seems to be this trend with newer Linux hobbyists that they judge the desktop on how it looks at first boot. KDE can be customized to a crazy degree. But there are people who "distro hop" to see which has the most "beautiful" desktop. I mean, it's your time, waste it however you like... most people just want their desktop to be functional and easy to use, with customization being the most important when it comes to BEHAVIOR, not necessarily "looks." I have a feeling some people have an inner interior designer impulse that enjoys smooth lines and "cute" things... whatever?

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  • horstderheld
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    Originally posted by cj.wijtmans View Post
    Does plasma 6 have dark/light mode or swotching between them based on time(instead of pesky blue light filter that distorts colours). And looking for HDR.
    At the moment, you can use third-party tools such as Koi or Yin-Yang

    ​But the KDE-Team is working on this:

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  • Vistaus
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    Originally posted by mercster View Post

    I remember those days of KDE 1-3... it was horrid. GNOME was the clear choice then... I don't think I ever saw hide or hair of KDE4. But KDE 5 is friggin' fantastic, and I'm glad they're not making any radical changes (*cough* GNOME3 *cough*)
    KDE 3 horrid? That's the first time I hear anyone say that… In fact, 3.5 especially is generally regarded as one of the best KDE versions ever to exist (which I, btw, agree with, even though I love Plasma 5 too!).

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  • Vistaus
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    Originally posted by archerallstars View Post
    KDE needs a new design team. The only thing keeping me on GNOME is KDE's lack of any design guideline or whatsoever. It's not just consistency, overall looking of the desktop is not beautiful (at all). IMO, here's my ranking of the best DE design to the worst: GNOME > Windows 11 = macOS > [random value here] > KDE.

    Also, they need something like GNOME Circle, cute little apps that represent their UX philosophy.
    They already have a design team: https://develop.kde.org/hig/
    And they already have a GNOME Circle thing: https://apps.kde.org/

    Plus it's only your opinion. In my opinion, I hate the way GNOME looks and feels. So to counter your argument: GNOME needs a new design team.

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