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  • Vistaus
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    Originally posted by Franco Castillo View Post
    My pointer works worse in Wayland than in X.Org. And that's taking into account that the pointer with X.Org on Linux is worse than on Windows. Sorry imprecise. On Windows it is smooth. My mouse is a Logitech G402.
    My pointer could use some improvements, but it's smooth enough for daily use on Wayland. My mouse is a Logitech MX Ergo.

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  • slalomsk8er
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    Originally posted by ngraham View Post
    Thanks folks, I'll look into the free space issue. On first glance it looks like an SDDM problem, not a Plasma problem. So technically it's not a KDE issue
    Problem is that SDDM is the first thing a normal user sees and associates with plasma. Because of this I'm so thrilled that KDE has increased focus on SDDM.

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  • Quackdoc
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    Originally posted by mrg666 View Post

    You should have ssh access to that computer instead of handwaving and wasting time. Why do you even act like you are supporting a computer when there is no sshd (or another support service) in place on that computer? Then come here and state your frustration when the customer is more frustrated with you. It does not matter where customer is when you have ssh access. The problem is there since your brilliant admins sent out computers, or accepted supporting, without checking if the support services in place. Incompetent product, incompetent support, lose, lose, and wth, lose, lose, lose.

    Sheesh!

    And you are here, finding problems with KDE as if that is your problem?
    You either enable it by default and ship a backdoor wide open on the network to anyone who has their login credentials (which oh boy if you think those are safe haha), Now you need to set up port forwarding. after you walked them through that arduous task you can now do it! oh crap, you made the decision of not enabling it by default? well now you have to walk the user through swapping to a tty to enable it. yeah that's gonna work super well.

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  • mrg666
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    Originally posted by dpeterc View Post

    Instead of playing ping-pong of judgments, just suggest a better way of handling the problem.

    Customers calls support desk, telling you that they can't login in the Linux graphical session and do any work.
    So graphical remote control tools are not available.
    You know from experience that probably the disk is full, which prevents login on KDE. But you need to check this hypothesis.
    OS was installed by third party with default options, which includes btrfs, so even deleting files from console will not free the space.
    Customer is 600 km away, and your only tool is a phone.

    So how do you, the competent support person, solve this problem?
    I will be glad to try your solution next time in such situation.
    You should have ssh access to that computer instead of handwaving and wasting time. Why do you even act like you are supporting a computer when there is no sshd (or another support service) in place on that computer? Then come here and state your frustration when the customer is more frustrated with you. It does not matter where customer is when you have ssh access. The problem is there since your brilliant admins sent out computers, or accepted supporting, without checking if the support services in place. Incompetent product, incompetent support, lose, lose, and wth, lose, lose, lose.

    Sheesh!

    And you are here, finding problems with KDE as if that is your problem?
    Last edited by mrg666; 12 November 2023, 11:19 AM.

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  • Quackdoc
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    Originally posted by guglovich View Post
    Common practice in development: beta for advanced users, put it at your discretion
    Wayland: we have almost no bugs left, but this is not certain. But we'll put it to everyone.

    What the hell is going on? Who is behind this?​
    I mean, I feel like linux in general is one big never ending beta test

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  • guglovich
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    Common practice in development: beta for advanced users, put it at your discretion
    Wayland: we have almost no bugs left, but this is not certain. But we'll put it to everyone.

    What the hell is going on? Who is behind this?​

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  • Quackdoc
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    Originally posted by dpeterc View Post

    Instead of playing ping-pong of judgments, just suggest a better way of handling the problem.

    Customers calls support desk, telling you that they can't login in the Linux graphical session and do any work.
    So graphical remote control tools are not available.
    You know from experience that probably the disk is full, which prevents login on KDE. But you need to check this hypothesis.
    OS was installed by third party with default options, which includes btrfs, so even deleting files from console will not free the space.
    Customer is 600 km away, and your only tool is a phone.

    So how do you, the competent support person, solve this problem?
    I will be glad to try your solution next time in such situation.
    use magic obviously. But I for sure feel your pain, stuff like this is explicitly why I don't deal with linux right now, just a major lack of polish everywhere. but at least there is a solution to this. When customers call for support asking why there are 10 things of firefox in the audio controls... yeah kinda SOL there

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  • dpeterc
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    Originally posted by mrg666 View Post

    In your post, you are complaining about incompetent people, all I see is incompetence of support and admins.
    Instead of playing ping-pong of judgments, just suggest a better way of handling the problem.

    Customers calls support desk, telling you that they can't login in the Linux graphical session and do any work.
    So graphical remote control tools are not available.
    You know from experience that probably the disk is full, which prevents login on KDE. But you need to check this hypothesis.
    OS was installed by third party with default options, which includes btrfs, so even deleting files from console will not free the space.
    Customer is 600 km away, and your only tool is a phone.

    So how do you, the competent support person, solve this problem?
    I will be glad to try your solution next time in such situation.

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  • direc85
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    My approach in handling small text size in my 4K 32" display is using UI zoom in the application; i.e. Ctrl +/-. Works in Firefox, most Electron apps (e.g. Visual Studio Code) and other text editors, and I appreciace the smaller screen estate the GUI, menus and buttons take. Some apps would benefit from global zoom, but so far I've managed to do without just fine. Task bar height is separately adjustable, which is nice.

    I tend to get annoyed a bit about the cluttered .config contents, which I regularily access (I'm a software developer slash all-around tinkerer). I typical use terminal for it, so it's definitely "not a real issue" for me, but as someone said earlier, it would be neat to have it clean! My rule of thumb would be "one file can go to .config, two-plus files must go to .config/appname/". Visual Studio Code does _both_... Qt defaults to the subfolder-approach, which is nice. (As I said in another thread: Electron, please fix your Wayland support!)

    Let's see if I have time and energy to migrate a few apps to sub-folder config at some point. That shouldn't be too hard, and I have some experience in such task already, which is nice.

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  • mrg666
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    Originally posted by dpeterc View Post
    Of course any competent system administrator knows that.
    Problem is that many companies do not have on-site system administrator. They call the support desk and give remote access. But they can't do it, if they can't login to graphical session.

    Have you ever tried to give such support by phone? Have the regular user switch to console, give them root password and instruct them to type "rm" commands? Have them read back the error message? Is this even a good idea? How dangerous is that?
    And then btrfs does not give you free space even if you delete the files?
    You instruct the user over the phone to mount an extra disk with free space and do tree balancing. To people who don't distinguish slash from backslash. Good luck with that.
    In your post, you are complaining about incompetent people, all I see is incompetence of support and admins.

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