Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Mozilla Eyes Removal Of Theora Support In Firefox

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #11
    * what about other 99.91%
    * it might give better picture

    Comment


    • #12
      Originally posted by theuserbl View Post
      What a Chrome-competition, which do everytime the same like Chrome.

      Seems to be a similar thing like Hotelling's law .

      What is, if there are Theora videos on some websites?
      Then they can no longer be seen with both browsers.
      No, it's just that Firefox development has long been paid for by Google. Surprise!

      Comment


      • #13
        Mozilla doesn't have to copy Google, dang it.

        Comment


        • #14
          guess it's time to write a theora decoder in rust

          Comment


          • #15
            Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
            I contemplated that thought, but I don't think Theora is advanced enough to have such exploits.
            All you need is to have a buffer not be bounds checked. *Every* format has those cases and can have those exploits.

            Originally posted by billyswong View Post

            Wait, OGG is not a codec but a container format. And often the video inside is encoded in Theora.
            Often Ogg is synonymous with Ogg-Vorbis. But it seems, they actually mean the ogg-container parsing.​

            Comment


            • #16
              Call me naïve, but I would have thought that if Browser A can decode more types of video than Browser B, that would serve to increase the use of Browser A, and might help Browser A if it has a smaller market share than Browser B.

              Perhaps the expected market-share advantage is insufficient to pay for the support of the extra capability?

              Comment


              • #17
                Originally posted by Danny3 View Post
                That's ok, unlike the shitty response they did when Google removed JPEG-XL!

                But it would be nice if they instead, focus and improve the support for AV1 and VP9 to the maximum extent possible.

                And when will they finally start implementing HDR support so we can see the videos on Youtube and other sites properly, like we can see them on our TVs?
                I still can't believe they invested so much to implement Vr support instead of HDR support, since Vr is much less and harder to use since very few people have Vr headsets, compared to the many HDR capable displays that people have.
                People have HDR capable displays? Never had one. My wife and me we both have two screens on our desk. But they are like 5-10 years old. No reason to replace them as they work fine. I figure it's similar for other people.

                But I'm finally eying with VR headset. So I'm happy for any VR support I can get.

                Comment


                • #18
                  Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
                  I contemplated that thought, but I don't think Theora is advanced enough to have such exploits.
                  Yeah I mean granted a WASM sandbox layer would be good. But IIRC there are already (on some platforms?) other layers of isolation / sandboxing / security configurations etc. for the browser that make exploits harder so that's something. And anyway it's a CODEC something one would kind of expect to be bomb-proof / fuzz-proof / resistant to invalid / corrupt input data, coded robustly / safely, etc. etc.
                  Maybe I'm giving too much credit for code quality and security but if devs (browser, CODEC library) can't even get THAT stuff right routinely almost every single time after many versions of a stable and widely upstreamed CODEC then that doesn't say anything good about SW engineers / engineering pratices or about the house of cards of bad code / technology we've built everything on.

                  "If carpenters built houses like programmers build software then civilization would have been destroyed by the first woodpecker that came along."

                  Comment


                  • #19
                    Originally posted by oleid View Post

                    People have HDR capable displays? Never had one. My wife and me we both have two screens on our desk. But they are like 5-10 years old. No reason to replace them as they work fine. I figure it's similar for other people.

                    But I'm finally eying with VR headset. So I'm happy for any VR support I can get.
                    A lot of (well not insignificantly many) people find that some 4k TVs make fine big screen monitors. I've seen it commended by a fair number of developers and of course it's advantageous for gaming etc. too vs. small standard monitors *and* a link over to a TV for playing on a bigger screen.

                    Comment


                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Quackdoc View Post
                      guess it's time to write a theora decoder in rust
                      And JPG-XL and ...

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      X