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  • bug77
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    Originally posted by Draget View Post
    I believe it is the right approach for a DE to integrate more tightly with existing system interfaces. Exposing some batter/power things, Webcam or system-init settings via the DE is really neat and slick. I like KDE. And every release that does not highlight 'fixed bugs on Wayland' is a good one, since it might hint at wayland support finally and slowly settling.
    I don't think the issue here is a lack of will to integrate said interfaces. The problem is there are so many interfaces to integrate, so it's tough to know what goes where. Ideally, you want a taksbar icon for quick access, but at the same time, you can't put everything in the taskbar. And if doesn't go into the taskbar, where do you put it?
    But all things considered, I think KDE handles these really well.

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  • Draget
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    I believe it is the right approach for a DE to integrate more tightly with existing system interfaces. Exposing some batter/power things, Webcam or system-init settings via the DE is really neat and slick. I like KDE. And every release that does not highlight 'fixed bugs on Wayland' is a good one, since it might hint at wayland support finally and slowly settling.

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  • Danny3
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    Originally posted by bug77 View Post

    Floating panels are just an example of form over function. On a proper panel, the "start" button is in the very corner of your monitor. You can hit it without looking (or with your eyes closed, if you wanted). On a floating panel, it's... well, not there. So it takes extra effort, dedicated attention to activate it.
    Now, for Plasma, that may not be an issue. I for one, hit the "start" menu very rarely, since I can launch everything via KRunner. Plus, it's KDE, you can just set it the way you want.
    Yes' that's exactly what I don't like as I prefer functionality over looks and I prefer to have the start menu in the left bottom corner and show desktop in the right bottom corner to be able to click them quickly and yes even when I'm not looking at the monitor or I have my eyes closed, for whatever reason.

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  • bug77
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    Originally posted by ssokolow View Post

    It sounds like they're saying the bottom-left pixel on the screen is still considered an active region which triggers the menu when clicked.
    I was just talking about the concept itself (since I do not have Plasma6 screenshots). And then I (and others) added that since Plasma is configurable, this would would be just a minor annoyance.
    In other words, floating panels have a built in flaw, but as long as they're not the only option, we're good.

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  • theriddick
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    I don't know what peoples problem is with the floating panel as default thing.
    Everything is customizable, you can make it detached from corner or whatever size you want.
    The process to customize the panel or anything in Plasma is not complicated like Gnome, it really should not be a topic for argument.

    I just hope they can get Multi-Display improvements, VRR, and HDR10/10+ working at some point. ATM VRR just flickers on my 7900XTX with the Plasma5-WL, is borked.

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  • ssokolow
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    Originally posted by bug77 View Post

    Look at the image used to illustrate this article (the one on the main page, for some reason the actual article uses a different one). That's what I was talking about: when you go with that approach, you can't "automate" hitting the start menu anymore.
    It sounds like they're saying the bottom-left pixel on the screen is still considered an active region which triggers the menu when clicked.

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  • bug77
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    Originally posted by openminded View Post
    >> you can't move your mouse...
    >> it takes an extra effort...
    Phoronix experts at their best lol. They haven't tried but want to share their opinion anyway haha.​
    And btw: who on earth clicks "start menu" with a mouse when there's Meta key right at your fingertips? This is the easiest way to open Kickoff. I wish all standard hotkeys would be as simple as that. For instance, Alt +F4 still considered the default way to close apps / windows while something like Alt + Esc could be far more convenient and productive especially when using laptops with various "media" functions assigned to Fn keys...
    Look at the image used to illustrate this article (the one on the main page, for some reason the actual article uses a different one). That's what I was talking about: when you go with that approach, you can't "automate" hitting the start menu anymore.

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  • openminded
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    >> you can't move your mouse...
    >> it takes an extra effort...
    Phoronix experts at their best lol. They haven't tried but want to share their opinion anyway haha.​
    And btw: who on earth clicks "start menu" with a mouse when there's Meta key right at your fingertips? This is the easiest way to open Kickoff. I wish all standard hotkeys would be as simple as that. For instance, Alt +F4 still considered the default way to close apps / windows while something like Alt + Esc could be far more convenient and productive especially when using laptops with various "media" functions assigned to Fn keys...
    Last edited by openminded; 01 October 2023, 01:19 PM.

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  • Vistaus
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    Originally posted by Jaxad0127 View Post

    Except it isn't in the corner of the screen when the panel is floating. You can't just move your mouse to the lower left a bunch and expect it to work if it isn't in the corner of the screen.
    Wrong: my panel is floating and it's still there in the lower left where it always was. In fact, I can even move my cursor beyond the icon (i.e. out of screen) and click and it still opens the menu.
    Last edited by Vistaus; 01 October 2023, 11:41 AM.

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  • Vistaus
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    Originally posted by bug77 View Post

    Floating panels are just an example of form over function. On a proper panel, the "start" button is in the very corner of your monitor. You can hit it without looking (or with your eyes closed, if you wanted). On a floating panel, it's... well, not there. So it takes extra effort, dedicated attention to activate it.
    Now, for Plasma, that may not be an issue. I for one, hit the "start" menu very rarely, since I can launch everything via KRunner. Plus, it's KDE, you can just set it the way you want.
    What do you mean it's not there? My panel on KDE is floating, but the start menu is still in the left hand corner. In fact, I can even move my cursor beyond the icon (i.e. out of screen) and click and it still opens the menu. So you can make panels float *and* keep everything where it is.
    Last edited by Vistaus; 01 October 2023, 11:42 AM.

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