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  • #21
    Originally posted by kpedersen View Post
    The consistent Metro/OSX approach just looks to me like a lame home PC where the companies involved are focusing on appeasing consumers with eye candy rather than making interesting software.
    Agreed, and it also took me time to come to terms with an inconsistent desktop experience.

    I even tried elementaryOS, which places consistency above everything else (so it seems). It's quite an achievement, but I found the OS lacking in almost every other sense. Also, I don't gel with the designers' opinions regarding what is best (I also strongly dislike macOS's look and feel, for what it's worth).

    At the end of the day, the best experience is the one the app developer was aiming for. The reality of open source is that this will result in inconsistency.

    On that note, I love it when app designers carefully separate the functionality into a library that is separate from the UI. This allows other developers to come in and more easily create a UI for their favorite desktop. There are a handful of apps that look great on both GNOME and KDE, for example.

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    • #22
      Used to be that inconsistent theming would really get on my nerves, but then I realised that the main thing that actually ticked me off is when I have my system using a dark theme and some pesky app decides to blind me with its light color scheme, now that all the apps I use either follow the XDG color scheme portal for the light/dark setting or at least have their own somewhere else I've stopped caring about whether apps are following the exact same theme, too much maintenance work.

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      • #23
        Its really sad that theming on Qt is so extremely broken and unmaintainable. Even just between different Qt apps.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by timofonic View Post

          Oh, yes. Because GTK and GNOME are better...
          Can we stop this useless discussion. I don;t care if a appliaction is Qt, KDE, GTK or GNOME. I install my application now with flatpak and they simply should work. This whole framework island idea is really outdated.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Alexmitter View Post
            Its really sad that theming on Qt is so extremely broken and unmaintainable. Even just between different Qt apps.
            Qt is now going down the Qml route and theming there means that every app is themed to it's own taste. This framework consistent theming is simply not working if you create your own custom widgets because it breaks the layout.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by andyprough View Post

              Next year's headline: Fedora to stop upstreaming support patches for Qt5, Qt6, cites developer blog post about it being "too burdensome"; Puts sources behind paywall, citing KDE community's "leeches" and "freeloaders".
              You know KDE and Qt are two different things, don't you Anakin?

              ...

              Don't you?

              Oh and because it's troll time, let me remind you that Qt's use of open source licensing hasn't always been very friendly to say the least. That's part of the reasons why GNOME exists at all to begin with.

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              • #27
                Typo "Adqaita-qt"

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by patrick1946 View Post

                  Can we stop this useless discussion. I don;t care if a appliaction is Qt, KDE, GTK or GNOME. I install my application now with flatpak and they simply should work. This whole framework island idea is really outdated.
                  Another fanboy of containerized packaged apps?

                  I would use Windows or macOS rather then use that crap, sorry.

                  Containerization and more granulated permission management are a good thing, but not by impossing another package format and an "agnostic" repository or whatever propaganda they want to say about to us.

                  And of course, containerization should be secure, but also a lot more resource usage optimized too.

                  Both Canonical and RedHat suck in that way and many others, forcing their shit to our throats.

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