VA-API's Libva 2.18 Released With Windows WSL D3D12 Support, Optional Disabling DRI3

[MorrisS.]

Why the necessity to disable DRI3?

[smitty3268]

I had an R300 back then, and it just not worked with Linux, as far as I remember AMD started to share documentation with the R500 series, and the project to release documentation started in 2008, we are talking about hardware from 2002 (this time only NVidia closed source driver worked for Linux users with real open GL)

I don't mean the open documentation AMD started putting out after r600, I meant that ATI used to (AFAIK) pay OpenSuse to develop the r300 driver and shared documentation privately with them. It is possible my recollections of good support were more for r400/r500 though. It was definitely pre-r600.

[andreduartesp]

Source? My understanding is that the OSS drivers were way better than fglrx, and were partially developed with open documentation/help from AMD back then. It was R600 that was questionable for a while, but i think those are in good shape now too.

I had an R300 back then, and it just not worked with Linux, as far as I remember AMD started to share documentation with the R500 series, and the project to release documentation started in 2008, we are talking about hardware from 2002 (this time only NVidia closed source driver worked for Linux users with real open GL)

[smitty3268]

Supported is very different from works. The R300 only works great with the closed-source driver

Source? My understanding is that the OSS drivers were way better than fglrx, and were partially developed with open documentation/help from AMD back then. It was R600 that was questionable for a while, but i think those are in good shape now too.

[andreduartesp]

ATI R300 was released in 2002 and is still supported in the current upstream Linux kernel and Mesa.

Supported is very different from works. The R300 only works great with the closed-source driver, and good luck to use it in a modern Linux kernel. At that time the open-source drivers for AMD were not official and the closed source is not supported anymore

[andreduartesp]

Did Nvidia mainline anything? Are there mesa drivers that wasn't developed by Redhat?

At the moment popular distros still crash and burn using open source software on many Nvidia devices that I used.

Did something change that I wasn't aware of?

The project is open source, any distro can build and distribute it (as far as I know this is the reason any distro exists in the first place).

The plan is to mainline the drivers to the Linux kernel repository, but this takes time, as far as I remember, AMD took many years before the first stable open-source driver (their closed-source driver was never stable)

Most distros don't use the official open-source drivers from NVidia, but it is not NVidia's fault, the driver is at GitHub, and with a good license, any distro can grab it and bundle it.

And most end users just don't care if the driver is open source, they want it to work, NVidia still updating Linux drivers for ancient hardware to work with new kernel versions, and any AMD depending on an old closed-source driver doesn't work for years now

[tuxd3v]

I am using version 2.15 in fedora 37,but I don´ t see hardware acceleration..

libva info: VA-API version 1.16.0
libva info: Trying to open /usr/lib64/dri/radeonsi_drv_video.so
libva info: Found init function __vaDriverInit_1_16
libva info: va_openDriver() returns 0
vainfo: VA-API version: 1.16 (libva 2.15.0)
vainfo: Driver version: Mesa Gallium driver 22.3.7 for KAVERI (, LLVM 15.0.7, DRM 2.50, 6.2.8-200.fc37.x86_64)
vainfo: Supported profile and entrypoints
      VAProfileMPEG2Simple            :    VAEntrypointVLD
      VAProfileMPEG2Main              :    VAEntrypointVLD
      VAProfileNone                   :    VAEntrypointVideoProc​

However I do have hardware acceleration on Debian stable, strange thing..

[Quackdoc]

Did Nvidia mainline anything? Are there mesa drivers that wasn't developed by Redhat?

At the moment popular distros still crash and burn using open source software on many Nvidia devices that I used.

Did something change that I wasn't aware of?

the original quote was that nvidia didnt help with anything, this is blatantly wrong nvidia releasing their open drivers is a big help, even if in terms of "documentation" alone

[MrCooper]

Any hardware produced by NVidia I have I can use with Linux (even old ones from 2004/2005), the same is not true about some old AMD hardware.

ATI R300 was released in 2002 and is still supported in current upstream Linux kernel and Mesa.

[Jabberwocky]

i'd love to see microsoft release direct x as completely open source. along with opening up win32 api. with them moving heavily towards software as a service i don't see the point in keeping everything closed source.

win32 api - ah, yes pandora's jar I wonder what kind of monsters are lurking in that code base.