KDE Delivers More Wayland Fixes & Plasma 6.0 Changes This Week

[phoronix]

Phoronix: KDE Delivers More Wayland Fixes & Plasma 6.0 Changes This Week

KDE developer Nate Graham is out with his usual weekly development summary that highlights all of the interesting desktop changes made over the course of the past seven days. This week he particularly calls out more Wayland fixes -- a common occurrence in the KDE camp...

https://www.phoronix.com/news/KDE-More-Wayland-Fixes-March

[Danny3]

More Wayland fixed, yes!

[openminded]

More Wayland fixed, yes!

Are always welcome, maybe I'll switch over to it one day, and probably will even celebrate that

[blacknova]

Recently I've tried KDE 5.27.something with Wayland on AMD based 6900hx laptop, I've been throughtly dissapointed. Some issues were annoying - like horizontal lines in terminal, some very annoying like XWayland apps window maximized were not maximized really leaving 1px zone were you can click the underlying window.
And the most annoying were linux drivers leading to full screen flicker or just white screen. Switching to xorg resolved most of my problems sans the amdgpu drivers, but under Xorg the problem was not as noticable. Driver problem is not KDE specific, GNOME wayland suffer from it as well.

So yeah, wayland need it's fixes.

[user1]

RecentlyDriver problem is not KDE specific, GNOME wayland suffer from it as well.

So yeah, wayland need it's fixes.

I've tried every Gnome version on Wayland since version 40 (I have Radeon RX 580) and haven't experienced any issues at all. I remember Gnome 3.38 on Wayland still had pretty bad input lag, but since 40 the experience has been flawless for me. In 42 and 43 input lag is even lower than on any X11 desktop despite Wayland's forced vsync (It's noticeable both in games and when dragging windows).

[mirmirmir]

This is so sad that people see wayland as buggy because of this. I hope from now on they will take responsibility to test their implementation of wayland before releasing it into the wild. Truly the reputation wayland get is not justified.

Also ive seen too many people think that wayland is a piece of software. It's not. It's just a protocol. like when you visit a broken website, you don't blame http, you blame the one who made the site.

[blacknova]

I've tried every Gnome version on Wayland since version 40 (I have Radeon RX 580) and haven't experienced any issues at all. I remember Gnome 3.38 on Wayland still had pretty bad input lag, but since 40 the experience has been flawless for me. In 42 and 43 input lag is even lower than on any X11 desktop despite Wayland's forced vsync (It's noticeable both in games and when dragging windows).

RX580 is not RDNA2. I've desktop with RX480 it doesn't suffer from driver issues.

[user1]

RX580 is not RDNA2. I've desktop with RX480 it doesn't suffer from driver issues.

So? blaming these issues on Wayland is unfair just because you experience them only on certain hardware. I know that AMDGPU is way more mature on Polaris than on newer hardware.
"So yeah, wayland need it's fixes" would've been true if there were serious issues on every hardware.

[slacka]

A little over a year ago, KDE + Wayland was a hot mess. Ended up on KWinFT, which solved 90% of my issues. But those 10% were brutal. Realized it was me 5 other people in the world with the same setup. Nail in the coffin was seeing the main dev struggling for funding. Now I’m on GNOME, but this looks like the time to give KDE another shot.

KWinFT might have been the right technical approach, but the KWin’s development resources seems to have overcome that. Too bad. I think KDE would be much better off today if they had followed his lead. Goes to show technical prowess means little if your personality drives people away.

[drlamb]

So? blaming these issues on Wayland is unfair just because you experience them only on certain hardware. I know that AMDGPU is way more mature on Polaris than on newer hardware.
"So yeah, wayland need it's fixes" would've been true if there were serious issues on every hardware.

+1. I've been using Plasma's wayland session the entire time I've had my 7900 XTX (hardware cursor issue on X11 when I first got it) and it's been a dream.