Apache OpenOffice 4.1.14 Brings A Handful Of Bug Fixes

[mirmirmir]

Fu consoomer, you can't outweigh anything with any brand new electrical shit. Except your PC is from 80s or something

[andyprough]

Not sure that is really a positive.

32-bit machines should have long since been recycled, especially the very slow but very high power usage Intel P4 systems.

64-bit (amd64/x86-64) have been shipping in desktop/laptops for 20 years now (2003), so you can easily get a 64-bit system for free as old ones have been thrown away for decades.

Calm down, no one is using these to play Call of Duty. You're talking about machines that are fired up occasionally to write a few letters. There aren't even any modern(ish) web browsers that will run on them - they aren't even useful for webmailing or facebook-ery. The cost of manufacturing brand new machines with all their energy inputs and rare earth metals would vastly outweigh the cost of the tiny amount of electricity to use one of these in their typical use patterns.

[uid313]

I don't agree. Yes, Word and Excel looks better, but if you pick the right icon theme and customize a bit the interface, LO applications looks OK. Actually, on my case, I like mostly dark colors and this setup works better on LO than it does on MS suite.

Cheers.

I had really looked forward to the dark mode, but it was disappointing because it was useless. The whole point of dark mode is that it should be dark, but the document background was jarringly white, even more jarring than with a light theme due to the intense contrast.

You can change the LibreOffice UI to a ribbon design and also alter the icon theme of the toolbar (both: Extras->Options). If you use Ribbon + Colibre icon theme, you get an interface that resembles MS Office closely, even in icon shapes and colors. The ribbon has all functions and elements where one would expect, which makes it easier to find stuff quickly.

Btw, testing out new things without having the slightest willingness to learn a few things, sets your mind up for anger, disappointment and failure. Becoming competent requires at least a minimum amount of effort.

I tried the ribbon design, it was one of the things that I had really looked forward to and had me excited, but it left me disappointed. It did not feel polished at all. It looked really cheap and like a poor attempt at imitation.

Admittedly I never tried to change the icon theme. I kind of expect some sane defaults and a good out-of-the-box experience.

[kiffmet]

The user interface was terrible, every variant of them, really, really terrible. (...) Everything was overwhelming and looked like something from three decades ago. (...)

You can change the LibreOffice UI to a ribbon design and also alter the icon theme of the toolbar (both: Extras->Options). If you use Ribbon + Colibre icon theme, you get an interface that resembles MS Office closely, even in icon shapes and colors. The ribbon has all functions and elements where one would expect, which makes it easier to find stuff quickly.

Btw, testing out new things without having the slightest willingness to learn a few things, sets your mind up for anger, disappointment and failure. Becoming competent requires at least a minimum amount of effort.

[acobar]

The user interface was terrible, every variant of them, really, really terrible.
I messed around with LO Base and LO Impress and couldn't understand anything, I was just confused and had no idea how to accomplish anything. LO Writer and LO Sheets were slightly better but still shitty. Everything was overwhelming and looked like something from three decades ago. Microsoft Office and Google Docs are a breeze to work with. I haven't tried OnlyOffice, maybe I should try that.

I don't agree. Yes, Word and Excel looks better, but if you pick the right icon theme and customize a bit the interface, LO applications looks OK. Actually, on my case, I like mostly dark colors and this setup works better on LO than it does on MS suite.

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Cheers.

[ryao]

They are not doing coverity scans any more and are not making the statistics from the scans publicly viewable. They also did not configure coverity correctly, since they only did Java scans:

https://scan.coverity.com/projects/openoffice

LibreOffice on the other hand not only does regular coverity scans, made the data public and has properly configured it, but also actively addresses every report that coverity makes such that they only have 2 outstanding defects:

https://scan.coverity.com/projects/libreoffice

It would be nice if OpenOffice would do the same.

[uid313]

why? I use libreoffice as daily driver, no problems or issues, most of people only need a notpad nothing more

OK, now I'm really curious. What you have against LO besides the interface?

I use it daily and even fix Excel files people send to me because they don't know how to make things work (mostly, specialized macros). Yeah, open in LO Calc, fix things and export to xlsm format.

LO Writer and LO Calc have been rock solid for me and I even use LO Impress from time to time.

The user interface was terrible, every variant of them, really, really terrible.
I messed around with LO Base and LO Impress and couldn't understand anything, I was just confused and had no idea how to accomplish anything. LO Writer and LO Sheets were slightly better but still shitty. Everything was overwhelming and looked like something from three decades ago. Microsoft Office and Google Docs are a breeze to work with. I haven't tried OnlyOffice, maybe I should try that.

[acobar]

I can't imagine how terrible this is!
OpenOffice is even worse maintained than LibreOffice, and I just tried the latest release of of LibreOffice some weeks ago and was greatly disappointed beyond belief!

I thought it would be good, I expected it to be good, I had high hopes for it and was eager to try it with excitement, but it was worse than I could have imagined. It is stuck in the past. I know they have some different modes to make it look differently and more modern and I tried all those modes and each one of them was more terrible than the other!

OK, now I'm really curious. What you have against LO besides the interface?

I use it daily and even fix Excel files people send to me because they don't know how to make things work (mostly, specialized macros). Yeah, open in LO Calc, fix things and export to xlsm format.

LO Writer and LO Calc have been rock solid for me and I even use LO Impress from time to time.

[andre30correia]

I can't imagine how terrible this is!
OpenOffice is even worse maintained than LibreOffice, and I just tried the latest release of of LibreOffice some weeks ago and was greatly disappointed beyond belief!

I thought it would be good, I expected it to be good, I had high hopes for it and was eager to try it with excitement, but it was worse than I could have imagined. It is stuck in the past. I know they have some different modes to make it look differently and more modern and I tried all those modes and each one of them was more terrible than the other!

why? I use libreoffice as daily driver, no problems or issues, most of people only need a notpad nothing more

[calc]

I said some bad things about OpenOffice on the Phoronix article about the last update, but since that time I tried it out with different systems and found that it works very well and with low memory usage on old 32-bit machines.

Not sure that is really a positive.

32-bit machines should have long since been recycled, especially the very slow but very high power usage Intel P4 systems.

64-bit (amd64/x86-64) have been shipping in desktop/laptops for 20 years now (2003), so you can easily get a 64-bit system for free as old ones have been thrown away for decades.