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  • #11
    Originally posted by mirmirmir View Post

    Maybe that's true, but I've seen europe cracking up monopolistic practices of big companies, which is not going to be addressed if Europe never stepped in.
    Yes. Tech enthusiasts have a real love-hate relationship with the EU institutions. Absolute bros with consumer rights; complete morons with digital privacy.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by xeekei View Post

      Yes. Tech enthusiasts have a real love-hate relationship with the EU institutions. Absolute bros with consumer rights; complete morons with digital privacy.
      The obvious end-goal is to bust & crackdown on all the illegal activity happening on Telegram & Co.

      And anyone who is truly participating in some of the vile stuff that's getting openly advertised on these platforms deserves it, to be honest...

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      • #13
        Awesomeness
        Shiba
        mirmirmir

        It's called client side scanning. The EU as a legislative body tries to enforce that practice on all consumer devices that run any software which can be used for communicating with others. At this point in time, it's already certain that the "Chat Control" law will pass. Once that happens, it's above constitutional level - the only way to get rid of it involves a lawsuit at the European court, which can only be done after the law becomes active.

        Here's the kicker though: While the European court can determine a law as non-compliant with fundamental EU legislation or the human rights charta, it cannot undo it. It can only suspend its application and return it to the legislative body to be "fixed".

        There have been representative studies which showed that 85% of Europeans are strictly against the law. Massive amounts of emails and phone calls directed towards the politicians involved with the legislation were sent. They still continued…

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        • #14
          Originally posted by kiffmet View Post
          There have been representative studies which showed that 85% of Europeans are strictly against the law. Massive amounts of emails and phone calls directed towards the politicians involved with the legislation were sent. They still continued…
          Because 99.9% of politicians live in a completely different world, isolated and insulated from the concerns of everyone they supposedly represent. They have power, prestige and the ability to hob nob around with everyone from royalty to celebrities to billionaires... and once someone has power, they guard it jealously. It's not unheard of for someone to willingly give up power and money, but it is exceedingly rare.

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          • #15
            Privacy is a basic human right. Open source software helps to ensure this.

            Originally posted by kiffmet View Post
            Awesomeness
            Shiba
            mirmirmir

            It's called client side scanning. The EU as a legislative body tries to enforce that practice on all consumer devices that run any software which can be used for communicating with others. At this point in time, it's already certain that the "Chat Control" law will pass. Once that happens, it's above constitutional level - the only way to get rid of it involves a lawsuit at the European court, which can only be done after the law becomes active.

            Here's the kicker though: While the European court can determine a law as non-compliant with fundamental EU legislation or the human rights charta, it cannot undo it. It can only suspend its application and return it to the legislative body to be "fixed".

            There have been representative studies which showed that 85% of Europeans are strictly against the law. Massive amounts of emails and phone calls directed towards the politicians involved with the legislation were sent. They still continued…
            Here in SA we have an online platform which informs the average person what absolutely insane laws are proposed and gives them an easy way to comment on it.

            SA government has tried to own all online data, including social media and content creators' data. Thanks to the platform it got shot down.
            SA government also wanted to implement social credit score like China with mass surveillance, this also got stopped.

            Does EU have a similar platform where citizens can vote or comment on proposed laws?

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            • #16
              Until a decade ago I was using KDE Telepathy for XMPP and SIP.
              It stopped working several years ago. It still gets shipped, and one still can create XMPP accounts in Plasma's System Settings (SIP accounts vanished). But I can't get it working any more. For years now.
              So: Does anyone here use Telepathy for XMPP?

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Old Nobody View Post
                Until a decade ago I was using KDE Telepathy for XMPP and SIP.
                It stopped working several years ago. It still gets shipped, and one still can create XMPP accounts in Plasma's System Settings (SIP accounts vanished). But I can't get it working any more. For years now.
                So: Does anyone here use Telepathy for XMPP?
                Isn't the point of this Phoronix blurb to highlight Telepathy's replacement?
                It would be nice to see one of these not abandoned for over a decade.

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                • #18
                  #typo "It's newest ambition"
                  This is not a contraction of "it is" or "it has", so no apostrophe. "Its" is already the possessive pronoun, just as you don't write "Hi's ambition."

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