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  • #21
    Do you think GIMP team gonna make it until 2025? 🤔

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    • #22
      This will be a general problem when ithis choice will be enforced to all the other distros as usually happens with anything RH decides...

      A lot windows of managers, like WindowMaker for instance, do not understand GTK3 and 4, do not mix good together with those library and the result is ugly.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Vistaus View Post

        FYI, LXDM is already in the process of being ported to Qt as part of the LXQt development. And pavumeter development is dead and will remain dead as more and more distributions switch to PipeWire.

        Btw, I don't use any GKT2 app anymore and I don't know of anyone that does.
        PipeWire is a substitute for the PulseAudio server and offers the exact same API, so there's no need to port anything to PipeWire as long as it supports PulseAudio.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Vistaus View Post

          Don't say that around here. People are complaining about TQt3 already and that has more developers than your future GTK2 branch if you are the sole maintainer. So there's no way people are going to welcome that.
          Possibly but it is fairly well known that since Qt doesn't use standard C++ and instead needs awkward preprocessors like MOC, it tends to rot badly. Their issues are evidence of that.

          Gtk+2.0 is simpler (and standard C99); Especially once combined into a monolithic library (currently it is a modular monolith that is common in the Linux ecosystem). Admittedly it wont ever be as light as FLTK (limiting to C++03 and a subset of STL was a good idea for portability), but I do predict that maintaining it won't be so bad.

          I have already done half of the combining whilst maintaining a Gtk 2.0 Quake III level editor.
          Last edited by kpedersen; 26 August 2022, 12:55 PM.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by birdie View Post
            Any volunteers to port these apps to GTK3/4?

            ddccontrol-gtk - use it daily
            gkrellm - likewire
            gpicview - use quite a lot
            hexchat - use quite a lot
            lxdm - my DM
            pavumeter - use it often
            unique - it has UI? Really? OMG


            A weird decision on Redhat's part.

            And these are GTK2 applications that I use. I imagine people have lots more.
            how much money do you pay to RH to support your use case?

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            • #26
              Originally posted by birdie View Post

              Find me a single message here on anywhere on the Internet where I'm trolling, I dare you. Everyone knows my name and email can be googled in a few seconds.
              https://www.phoronix.com/forums/foru...15#post1342515

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              • #27
                probably should just lock this threads since its just a massive anti birdie​ fest circle jerk.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by birdie View Post
                  Any volunteers to port these apps to GTK3/4?

                  ddccontrol-gtk - use it daily
                  gkrellm - likewire
                  gpicview - use quite a lot
                  hexchat - use quite a lot
                  lxdm - my DM
                  pavumeter - use it often
                  unique - it has UI? Really? OMG


                  A weird decision on Redhat's part.

                  And these are GTK2 applications that I use. I imagine people have lots more.
                  gpicview and lxdm are gtk3

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by birdie View Post
                    Any volunteers to port these apps to GTK3/4?

                    ddccontrol-gtk - use it daily
                    gkrellm - likewire
                    gpicview - use quite a lot
                    hexchat - use quite a lot
                    lxdm - my DM
                    pavumeter - use it often
                    unique - it has UI? Really? OMG


                    A weird decision on Redhat's part.

                    And these are GTK2 applications that I use. I imagine people have lots more.
                    Red Hat Enterprise Linux 10 will be released in 2025, which will be supported for about 10 years, which mean supporting GTK2 until about 2035, for a toolkit which is already deprecated

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                    • #30
                      I don't typically agree with birdie, but this feels like some sort of public lynching.

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