GNOME Console Could Be Ubuntu 22.10's GNOME Terminal Replacement

[RahulSundaram]

Fedora has had patched versions of vte3 and GNOME Terminal that provide notifications and real transparency for quite some time now. On Archlinux, you can get gnome-terminal-fedora and vte3-notification from the AUR. They're both really nice, honestly I'm not sure why they've been maintained separately from upstream for so long...

Upstream GNOME Terminal maintainer didn't want it IIRC. Otherwise, in general, Fedora has explicit guidance encouraging sending patches upstream (I wrote it more than a decade back)

[oleid]

Naturally - the pros have all wandered off (about the time gnome3 landed)

Why did they wander off?

Anyway, you missed the point. The point is you should rarely need the terminal, unless you want to use it.
The only case $AverageUser needs a terminal is when they copy&paste random stuff from some blog.

[uxmkt]

Why did they wander off?

https://felipec.wordpress.com/2013/06/12/the-problem-with-gnome-3/

[F.Ultra]

a friend of mine did mod it to a point it was somewhat useful for programming

nano it quite useful for programming as it is. Now I prefer something like gedit since it is nicer to work with but I have also written millions of lines of code in nano with very little effort. But then I have also never understood what people see in vim or emacs.

[tildearrow]

It is recommended for the casual terminal user, not "power users" according to gnome-console's gitlab page:

The average terminal user is a power user.

[dr_wix]

BTW, anyone knows how does either of these 2 Gnome's terminals compare with KDE's terminal (Konsole)?

Konsole is light years ahead of any terminal emulator out there simply because it has tabs and supports splits in a way that don't suck. The current maintainer has been maintaining it since ~17 years, that's a big plus.

[elatllat]

apt purge snapd nano GNOME_Console

[oleid]

https://felipec.wordpress.com/2013/0...-with-gnome-3/

That's ages old. And gnome has still users.
If you trust Debian's popularity contest it's the most popular desktop:

https://qa.debian.org/popcon-graph.p...25m&beenhere=1

So it would seem they wandered off, didn't like what they found and came back?

[oleid]

The average terminal user is a power user.

Maybe, but the average desktop user is not an average terminal user. And it is about what package is preinstalled. I think we all agree that a desktop needs a shell. And even people which typically use a shell might need to use a shell at some point.

[felipec]

That's ages old. And gnome has still users.
If you trust Debian's popularity contest it's the most popular desktop:

Every word there is still valid. At the time of its peak GNOME 2 had 4 times more users than both KDE and Xfce combined, now it's only 1.5 times.

Moreover, you are conveniently looking at the votes, and the total number, which paints a dubious picture. If you see the installations as a percentage, it's very clear GNOME is steadily declining. It's also clear that Xfce was losing users before GNOME 3, and afterwards they jumped up. Moreover cinnamon and MATE (which you conveniently forgot in your graph) didn't exist, and now they have a considerable userbase.

All those new users of Xfce, MATE, and Cinnamon would have been users (and developers) of GNOME. No, we are never coming back to the mess of GNOME 3.

You have too look at the correct graph.