KDE Developers Already Making Great Strides On Plasma 5.26

[arun54321]

I'm delighted by the attention to detail

What 'attention to detail' are you talking about?

I always find plasma unpolished, buggy, cramped, cluttery and outdated UI. heck, even windows 7 looks better and modern than this plasma thingy.

[schmidtbag]

I don't know what's up with me and KDE/Plasma. It's been the same since the 90's: from time to time I try it and I'm delighted by the attention to detail, the functionality—and I find nothing wrong that I can put a finger on... Yet, after a few days, I find myself back on Mate - of all... Perhaps it's something superficial, like the general looks or the taskbar aspect ratio... Because otherwise, the functionality is there, discoverable, ergonomic. I don't know... I'm at a loss.

Might just simply be a matter of getting used to it. It's like driving the same car for 10 years, you're forced to replace it with something else, and it just never quite feels the same. You could also think of it like switching to a different keyboard layout, where typing will be slow and frustrating at first, but you just have to get used to it and you might like it better.

If you don't actually know the reason you dislike something, it's probably because you just didn't use it for long enough. There are plenty of valid reasons to dislike KDE, and even if some of them are superficial, well, nobody can tell you you're wrong (we might think you're being petty but that's not our problem). But if you're not sure, you're just not giving it a chance.

[mystiquewolf]

That Sentry and DrKonqi integration is going to be the boss!! Much awaited, hopefully will improve KDE stability in some time.

[Vistaus]

That's up to wayland first, no?

Isn't the whole point of Wayland that window manager/DE implementations should be handled by the WM/DE?

[aleksamagicka]

Isn't the whole point of Wayland that window manager/DE implementations should be handled by the WM/DE?

Afaik yes, but the HDR wayland protocol spec is WIP. When it's finished it can be implemented

[pWe00Iri3e7Z9lHOX2Qx]

And KDE bugs, don't know why, but I tend to hit all kind of long standing bugs especially with muti display support, or not properly applying dark mode. Must be me, but those are things I expect to work.

Multi-monitor and general issues around displays being removed / added got much better for me in 5.25.2. There was a big refactor of how screens were handled in 5.25, but one of the KDE devs found and worked around an upstream QT bug in 5.25.2 that seems to be the source of a lot of the problems I had. It's very solid now on my more complicated than average setup. The workaround should be in the 5.24.6 LTS update as well, and the same KDE dev got it fixed in upstream QT too.

[pdbecid]

When I used Plasma and started Chrome, KWallet always wanted my password, despite the fact I'm not using it. Will this behavior disappear in Plasma 5.26?

That is really annoying. You can do as FireBurn said or you can set KWallet with an empty password. It all depends on you security model.

[STiAT]

Multi-monitor and general issues around displays being removed / added got much better for me in 5.25.2. There was a big refactor of how screens were handled in 5.25, but one of the KDE devs found and worked around an upstream QT bug in 5.25.2 that seems to be the source of a lot of the problems I had. It's very solid now on my more complicated than average setup. The workaround should be in the 5.24.6 LTS update as well, and the same KDE dev got it fixed in upstream QT too.

After that I tried KDE, and my 2nd screen/beamer or after docking the displays were either in wrong order or just had a black background (which is not much of an issue, always having to adjust displays because KDE decides what was on the left before is now on the right side is annoying).

This was actually what drove me away from using KDE, for docking/undocking/going to meetings became a thing again after Covid Office "break" ;-).

[skeevy420]

Where I'm not at a loss is GNOME. And it is OFF Topic, but let me rant for a moment...
Gnome is definitively not for me: too few—too big icons, too many clicks, too many steps, too oriented to full-screen. (I -want- to be "distracted" by multiple options, windows, and minimized apps—with text—on task-bars.) </rant>
Now that I think of it, it's probably the Mate desktop switcher that steals me back from KDE/Plasma every time. And the fact that I tend to use 8 desktops most of the time, probably has its weight.

I don't really like admitting to this, but the GNOME desktop offered with CentOS 9 wasn't bad at all and I found it easy enough to use and figure out. While that overall style isn't my preference, if I would have added GNOME Tweaks and some taskbar/systray plugins I could have made it work for me. Their KDE desktop was just horrible; as in it was the buggiest and worst KDE experience I've had since moving to Plasma from XFCE around the 5.4 or 5.5 Plasma release nearly a decade ago. I lasted a hair over 24 hours. Even the SDDM session picker was bugged. If y'all happen to be seizure prone, don't change sessions using SDDM Wayland on CentOS 9. It's Pokemon flicker bad.

But on your other post about Mate: I find myself to be the opposite of you. I find Plasma with Breeze Dark to be aesthetically pleasing so I always find myself wanting to go back to it no matter what environment I try or how customizable it is. Even if I make it as close to Plasma as possible, that's almost worse so I can see how you'd see Plasma like that. It can be like Mate, but not quite. Some things are similar while others are different; and neither necessarily in good ways.

[luno]

I use:

CHROMIUM_FLAGS=" --password-store=basic"

in my /etc/chromium/defaults to stop this from happening

that will store passwords and other secrets in plain-text, isn't it ?