Ubuntu 22.10 Switching To PipeWire For Linux Audio Handling

[polarathene]

Meanwhile: happily using Gnome 42. Even being a professional user, doing development taks, server and infrastructure maintenance taks, lots of communication, some video creation for yt,...

I tried Fedora 36 with GNOME 42 recently, I'm a little confused with the experience. Quite a bit was Fedora specific, but I do recall the following:

You can't minimize apps? At least when I was testing some software out like Unigine Heaven I could not hide the launcher window. I'm a bit confused why that's the case and what you're meant to do (shift it to a different workspace?). There wasn't anything in the windows titlebar with right-click context, nor in the top panel interaction for the app regarding minimizing. I believe more native apps like Nautilus supported such via those menus at least, but it seems it's not consistently supported?

VRR also didn't work on Wayland, even with fullscreen app which worked on X11. I believe this is coming eventually.

GNOME also doesn't seem to offer an ability to disable compositing. That's rarely relevant, but with graphical workloads it does help. On Plasma steam games can disable compositing and it runs a lot better, including with windowed games or benchmarks. Pragmatically at least it seems to work for fullscreen usage implicitly where it'd be most useful, so that's good at least

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I haven't used Gnome long enough to really form much of opinion about it. The only real gripe I have that'd affect me is window management with lack of being able to minimize windows, but maybe that's me using it wrong and I'm meant to know some shortcut to throw it to another workspace and switch between those quickly (overview is neat but that sort of switching would be annoying).

[jacob]

Not anymore:

"GNOME Text Editor is a simple text editor focused on a pleasing default experience."

So it's focus is not being a capable or functional text editor. It's just trying to be pleasant to use; to give you a pleasant experience while you explore its three functions.

It's a text editor. It's UTF-8 aware, it has syntax highlighting, simple search&replace and sane controls, that's it. What else do you want from a TEXT EDITOR? It's not intended nor designed for advanced requirements such as auto-formatting, language analyser integration, debugger and git integration etc. There is software for that (my personal favourite being VS Codium), this one is for displaying README files and some basic editing. And yes, being pleasant to use is essential.

[jacob]

What's so good about that new text editor (and the new terminal)? I think they both suck because they just don't have any features at all (I get it, Gnome is not KDE, but removing features from the apps themselves is too much for me). I've seen even the most die hard Gnome fans criticize the new terminal. Fedora 36 unfortunately replaced Gedit with the new text editor, but kept the old terminal. I hope the terminal will not be replaced with the new one in a future version.

The new terminal is actually great with the way the window automatically changes color when you use sudo or ssh, it's a great way to prevent stupid mistakes. Ok you can't micromanage the font or the exact transparency percentage. Personally I don't care.

[bple2137]

Too bad it didn't make it to 22.04. Many people stick to LTS and they'll ultimately switch to PW in 2024. It already doesn't make sense to use PulseAudio now as it's less stable while providing less features and on Wayland PipeWire is a requirement anyway.

[WannaBeOCer]

This thread has gone way off topic.

It's always kinda funny when the [other DE] trolls invade any thread with gnome hate and the same stereotypes again and again and again. It's so foreseeable.

Meanwhile: happily using Gnome 42. Even being a professional user, doing development taks, server and infrastructure maintenance taks, lots of communication, some video creation for yt,...

And to make it even more outrageous: I think wayland has long surpassed X11 in terms of useful features and everyday performance. No kidding.

Yes that is outrageous since it doesn’t even meet feature parity of x11.

It’s perfectly fine for 99% of Intel/AMD normal desktop usage/gaming. Left out Nvidia since they’re still working on their support: https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/...release/214275

It’s currently completely useless for vision and neuroscience research. Which I’m certain have more workstations deployed than the number of Linux gamers due to broken timing in Wayland.

https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayla...ge_requests/45

[skeevy420]

Good advice. But. In my life I filed like 10 bug reports, none was ever fixed, sometimes after years pass by I sometimes get an unwanted email telling me that the bug was so old it got removed from the DB and if it still wasn't fixed I should file again - to which I thought to myself "fuck you". Last one I filed was about mpv not so long ago.

Hey, at least that MPV one gained some traction and someone provided a workaround Lua script.

[cl333r]

On Manjaro it's only an optional dependency for kio and gwenview. I wouldn't be surprised if other distributions have KDE/QT dependencies messed up. I filed a bug report at Arch Linux for spectacle. You, or someone else, should probably do the same for Ubuntu.

Good advice. But. In my life I filed like 10 bug reports, none was ever fixed, sometimes after years pass by I sometimes get an unwanted email telling me that the bug was so old it got removed from the DB and if it still wasn't fixed I should file again - to which I thought to myself "fuck you". Last one I filed was about mpv not so long ago.

[skeevy420]

That fixed it, thanks! I don't know why it didn't install by default when installing the plasma5-desktop (or whatever it's called).

On Manjaro it's only an optional dependency for kio and gwenview. I wouldn't be surprised if other distributions have KDE/QT dependencies messed up. I filed a bug report at Arch Linux for spectacle. You, or someone else, should probably do the same for Ubuntu.

[cl333r]

Watching that video I noticed that you also don't have Jpeg2k, JpegXL, HEIF, TIFF, and probably others. See mine.

That package I mentioned earlier is called qt5-image-formats-plugins on Ubuntu.

That fixed it, thanks! I don't know why it didn't install by default when installing the plasma5-desktop (or whatever it's called).

[skeevy420]

Then why don't I have such an option?

Watching that video I noticed that you also don't have Jpeg2k, JpegXL, HEIF, TIFF, and probably others. See mine.

That package I mentioned earlier is called qt5-image-formats-plugins on Ubuntu.