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  • #21
    Originally posted by benjiro View Post
    The real reason for the war is ...
    No. The reason is Russia's leadership. There are other ways - good ways - than killing people in order to share and trade resources. The idea that most wars are simply based on resources is a nice fairy tale, a smokescreen in itself. Every country has its resources. Even the Moon and Mars have. People themselves are a resource - see China's workforce for example. Nor can one eat gas and oil, and all the money it gives you is subject to currency, value, trade, and one cannot eat money either.

    This war is mainly about power, to demonstrate power and to hold onto power. It shows Putin's people who is "boss", it tells the Russian population that their country still matters and that it has might. It instils respect among the population and fear among the opposition. Putin uses aggression as a powerful tool to achieve this and it is how he creates security - by making others feel insecure.

    Russia has been struggling with loss of power and territory. Being peaceful, and friendly to trade, when you are an autocracy just does not mix too well. People start thinking they could deal and trade with their government, which is not what an autocracy wants. There fighting off a rebellion is one thing. Taking back a former region that has established its independence, is a far more powerful demonstration of might. And Putin has a history of dealing with opposition in surprising aggressive ways, and this war is his latest attempt.

    My personal fear is that he will hold on to the war for as long as he can, because the longer the terror goes the more it establishes his might and ultimately render Europe as powerless. If he can then crown his terror with the removal of the Ukrainian government and a complete occupation would this be seen by Russia and its historians as a major win. Only for now is the war still fresh and it may feel like the West is doing enough and that we could influence the outcome. But while we struggle to make sense of it, try to fight back in peaceful ways, will Putin only need to sink his teeth in, hold on and wait it out.

    Putin has often shown himself as a "nature man", topless horseback riding or hunting in Siberia or as whatever. But not as a pea counter or a scrounger for resources. He has his people to do the counting. Now he is hunting after a big prey and I do not believe that he is mad or crazy. The price is not oil or gas. It is to cause fear and instability in Europe, and thereby to create a more secure Russian Federation. And he will get it unless Europe goes to war, and of course it will not do that, because of the nukes.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by ALRBP View Post
      Ukraine wanting to join NATO is the cause of the war, and NATO is in no way neutral in this conflict. NATO countries actively support Ukraine, even though no NATO soldiers are physically present in Ukraine.
      If NATO would be any threat to Russia, soldiers would be in Ukraine now. In fact, all NATO countries said, that they don't want any war with Russia. So what's the point invading Ukraine? Right: Putin said, it was a historical mistake to acknowledge Ukraine's independence from Russia in the past. Putin just wants the "good old days" back.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post
        ngraham I was looking at the screenshot of the Firmware Security and it appears that Green is the good color and Red is the bad color...could Blue or Yellow be added for Not Supported? It seems disingenuous to label unsupported options as Red/Bad when they can't be turned Green/Good.
        Not a bad idea, but it's out of our hands; the data comes from the output of `fwupdmgr security --force`, which uses red for those. So you would need to file the issue here: https://github.com/fwupd/fwupd/issues

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        • #24
          I didn't know that kde community is mostly Ukrainian

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          • #25
            Originally posted by mirmirmir View Post
            I didn't know that kde community is mostly Ukrainian
            No one made that claim.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by ALRBP View Post
              "War is merely the continuation of politics by other means."


              Ukraine wanting to join NATO is the cause of the war, and NATO is in no way neutral in this conflict. NATO countries actively support Ukraine, even though no NATO soldiers are physically present in Ukraine.

              Anyway, the problem is not the news itself, but the reactions of people in the forum.
              If it were involved - we would have WW3 - here we only have to help a raided country - which is barbarously destroyed by the invaders. Unfortunately, such actions require condemnation - in every area.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by xAlt7x View Post
                The cause of war is the russian fascism (ruscism). NATO is just a pretext for kremlin maniacs.
                Wow, amazing level of disinformation, bud. Never change!

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by xAlt7x View Post
                  The cause of war is the russian fascism (ruscism). NATO is just a pretext for kremlin maniacs.
                  Originally posted by ireri View Post
                  Wow, amazing level of disinformation, bud. Never change!
                  Yeah, surely Russian propaganda will inform you better than people living in Ukraine.
                  For decades Ukrainian people experienced hostile treatment, contempt, pressure and threats from Russia. In 2013 active conscious citizens decided that they're fed up of "russian world" and decided to move into western direction (at that point towards "European Union", "NATO" wasn't really popular in Ukraine). Wast majority of country supported that. Seeing that they're losing their influence over Ukraine Russia started "hybrid" war, occupied Crimea and some Eastern parts of Ukraine.
                  In 2013 only 18% of Ukrainian citizens supported NATO, and even after Russian invasion (2014) support was at the level of 48%. After 7 years of war, thousands of deaths and continuous Russian propaganda threats in 2021 finally that mark raised to 58%. Obviously they just wanted a guarantee of safety. Unlike Moldova, Ichkeria (Chechnya), Georgia and Ukraine, members of NATO (like Poland and Lithuania) still weren't attacked despite all the threats of propagandists.
                  Historically Russian government does not comply with the agreements, doesn't believe in international law or democracy. They believe in a brute force. Last week it has been proven once again.
                  Last edited by xAlt7x; 05 March 2022, 03:32 PM.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by ireri View Post

                    Wow, amazing level of disinformation, bud. Never change!
                    First NATO countries themselves were more on "no" for Ukraine to join NATO. 2nd Ukraine people as xAlt mentioned were mostly opposing it. Thing is NATO is good and bad, it is good if it protects you, but it is bad if it entangles you into wars like on middle east.

                    This is why Finland, Sweden and Ukraine didn't want to join NATO, because before in eyes of people safety of not being in alliance was greater then safety of being in one. No one would even consider joining NATO, neither Georgia neither Ukraine neither Finland neither Sweden until Russia attacked. Russia is best argument for joining NATO, if Russia wasn't a dick no one would consider it.

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                    • #30
                      There are no Internet restrictions in Russia, this is idiotic. That the people would spend their time watching the events, makes much more sense for the decline of commits.

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