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  • #21
    Originally posted by Vistaus View Post
    For the record: I have compiled a post with links to some of my bug reports, but the forum software has marked it as unapproved:
    I see some bug reports for particular github projects. How does this relate to Windows being half-assed in terms of supporting HDR? You're too fast at moving the goalposts.

    I talked about the OS, you're now talking about some open source projects. Are you alright, mate? The hell should I care about them? I have a 30bit color depth + HDR enabled and everything works. Steam, games, Firefox, Chrome, all the applications in Windows that I use.

    Really, I shouldn't have argued with you. You've just proven your "worth".
    Last edited by birdie; 05 February 2022, 03:06 PM.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by birdie View Post
      I see some bug reports for particular github projects. How does this relate to Windows being half-assed in terms of supporting HDR? You're too fast at moving the goalposts.

      You asked me what I had done for open source in the past five years, after which I told you all that I've done and still do, and then you asked me for bug reports that I filed, so I gave you a selection. You didn't say they had to be about an OS.

      Anyway: I'm done with you. As you can read on the previous page, I have done plenty for FOSS and still do so every week. I don't need to take this potty mouth from you. People like you are exactly the reason why some FOSS contributors are scared off (not me, though!).
      Last edited by Vistaus; 05 February 2022, 03:45 PM.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Vistaus View Post


        You asked me what I had done for open source in the past five years, after which I told you all that I've done and still do, and then you asked me for bug reports that I filed, so I gave you a selection. You didn't say they had to be about an OS.

        Anyway: I'm done with you. As you can read on the previous page, I have done plenty for FOSS and still do so every week. I don't need to take this potty mouth from you. You're exactly the reason why some FOSS contributors are scared off (not me, though!).
        Let's just quote you:

        Originally posted by Vistaus View Post

        The amount of HDR issues on Windows is countless. Microsoft recently fixed a major flaw in HDR support on Windows that even most media covered, but it still leaves a lot to be desired. Wayland may be late to the party, but being early like Windows and then half-assing it isn't great either.
        Originally posted by Vistaus View Post
        You didn't say they had to be about an OS.
        I will ignore your posts from now on. This is simply ugly.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Vistaus View Post
          The amount of HDR issues on Windows is countless. Microsoft recently fixed a major flaw in HDR support on Windows that even most media covered, but it still leaves a lot to be desired. Wayland may be late to the party, but being early like Windows and then half-assing it isn't great either.
          I was referring to color management for SDR video. It works on Xorg, but Xorg is sh*t with Intel GPU, so there is that...

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Vistaus View Post

            LOL, birdie again, people. Complains about Plasma being late to support it, meanwhile complains that not even all apps properly support it. So exactly how late is Plasma if there are still apps, even big name apps, that don't support it?
            Well, if Plasma doesn't do HDR, how you go about adding HDR support for apps running on Plasma?
            I mean, sure, you can cross-compile and see whether it works on Windows. But you still have less than a 50% chance of this working when Plasma adds support.

            tildearrow This isn't about alpha, 30bit color means 10bits per channel. It's useful to avoid banding, especially in a wide-gamut scenario.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by bug77 View Post
              This isn't about alpha, 30bit color means 10bits per channel. It's useful to avoid banding, especially in a wide-gamut scenario.
              It's not about wide gamut, you always have slight banding in 8bpc with gradients in any color space. But you can do the maths in higher bitdepth intermediate format and then dither to 8 bit output, ideally this is completely free of any noticeable banding too. 10 bit output format is highly overrated on internet forums.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by nist View Post
                Kde Plasma use now less cpu resources than just an year ago (in fact, everything I did a lot of cpu cycles was generated by plasma-shell).
                My disappoint is for what reason after I enable the calendar events in the clock the ram used grows of about 300 mb? I know it is for Akonady, but the ics file is just a plain text file.

                I have a question: why qtquick is preferred over a compiled language (c++ in this case)?
                QML allows us to build user interfaces faster and it's easier for non-developers to change something up, the backend part of all KDE's qtquick applications are already done with c++ btw

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by nist
                  I have a question: why qtquick is preferred over a compiled language (c++ in this case)?
                  Dynamic languages are better for UIs. They are more flexible, and enable runtime features that are impossible with a compiled language.

                  Look at Gnome for example. The gnome shell UI is described and controlled in JavaScript. Being able to click a webpage link in order to install a plugin that modifies the UI without having to restart is one neat feature that would be impossible in a compiled language.

                  Performance is not relevant for something you are using to describe what the UI should look like. All the performance sensitive code that does the work behind the scenes is in C.

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                  • #29
                    30bit support sounds nice but if half the applications have a 'episode' when your in that mode then its kind of mute.

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                    • #30
                      Support for 30-bit color in the Plasma X11 session, starting with Plasma 5.24
                      Where is color bitness configured in KDE?

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