PipeWire 0.3.43 Released With Many Fixes

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  • skeevy420
    Senior Member
    • May 2017
    • 8695

    #21
    Originally posted by Alexmitter View Post
    I wonder when the counter-pipewire movement comes to life. What could it be, people favouring Pulse for arbitrary and mostly wrong reasons, a resurgence of directly using Also or maybe even a come back of OSS.

    No doubt that the larger community is capable of at least creating a "Pulse is better" movement.
    OSS is BEST

    Wire goes in conduit.

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    • skeevy420
      Senior Member
      • May 2017
      • 8695

      #22
      Posts 5-8 is one of the most ironic exchanges I've seen on Phoronix.

      Here's your sign.

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      • royce
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2018
        • 660

        #23
        Originally posted by F.Ultra View Post

        It will most likely not happen in 22.04, it will most likely be the 0.3.43 version (currently it's 0.3.42 but feature freeze isn't until feb 24 so there is still time for Debian Sid to add 0.3.43), also it have moved in from Universe back in 20.04 so its more official in Ubuntu now. So while it won't be the default in 22.04 it should be quite easy to switch to it vs 20.04 where you have to add it via a PPA due to the very old version.
        Yeah, there's no chance Canonical will potentially break a large number of user's audio by switching to pipewire just before an LTS without testing it on previous non-LTS releases.

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        • bug77
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2009
          • 6526

          #24
          Originally posted by royce View Post
          Is there a distro that uses pipewire out of the box for audio? I'd like to try it with my bluetooth setup but I really don't want to muck about my current desktop install.
          It's not hard to install, since it's a drop-in replacement for Pulse. It simply uninstalls the Pulse package and replaces it. You will probably lose some settings/customization in the process, but you'd lose that if installing a new distro anyway. For me it was rather painless. I lost my secondary sampling rate, but found where I could add it to PipeWire rather quickly.
          Check whether your distro provides guidance for installing PipeWire and if you're comfortable with what you find, go for it. Much easier than going for a new distro, imho.

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          • Nocifer
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2018
            • 225

            #25
            Originally posted by birdie View Post

            Amazing how thick you are at appreciating humor. I mean you didn't get the gist of it at all and instead of maybe thanking me, you just mounted an attack. There's something salty, angry and lacking confidence about Open Source fans, maybe it's down to feeling the need to defend a lousy OS with so many issues which is a pain to use. Comments like this make me want to pull out of Open Source altogether for fuck's sake. Damn. You help fix a major memory leak and you're getting panned for that. WTF?
            a) He did indeed thank you. Way to go proving to the world that you don't even bother to read the posts you're replying to.

            b) So now Linux has been upgraded to a "lousy OS" that "is a pain to use"? Nice! I wonder how deep this rabbit hole of yours goes.

            c) I seriously hope that you'll put your money where your mouth is and really pull out of OSS altogether. Please, for f*ck's sake, I've had enough of your toxicity.

            d) BONUS: We should be "thanking" you just because you reported a possible bug and then the developers followed through and did all the hard work trying to find the cause and fix it? Not that I had any more doubts at this point, but way to go again for showing the world what a narcissistic prick you really are. THANK YOU.

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            • tuxd3v
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2014
              • 1731

              #26
              Originally posted by Alexmitter View Post
              I wonder when the counter-pipewire movement comes to life. What could it be, people favouring Pulse for arbitrary and mostly wrong reasons, a resurgence of directly using Also or maybe even a come back of OSS.

              No doubt that the larger community is capable of at least creating a "Pulse is better" movement.
              Don't give them Ideas..

              For what I understand PipeWire also uses pulse audio server right?
              So its some sort of a mix of everything that exists rebranded?
              its a bit confuse..

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              • Amano
                Junior Member
                • Nov 2017
                • 39

                #27


                Originally posted by Danny3 View Post
                It would be so nice if Ubuntu 22.04 would switch to it and free us from having to install it ourselves.
                They don't want to introduce regressions for those who switch from LTS to LTS. That's the majority of their userbase. And that kind that prefers stability. I guess that they will make the switch in May. It's not that they are opposed to it.
                Otherwise people will wonder what's wrong and will flood the trackers. Now people can switch manually if they feel that they should. But at least those know what caused the (potential) regression.
                Last edited by Amano; 05 January 2022, 03:13 PM.

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                • lucrus
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 453

                  #28
                  Originally posted by tuxd3v View Post
                  For what I understand PipeWire also uses pulse audio server right?
                  Wrong. PIpewire provides a PulseAudio compatibile server of its own, so that applications can play sound via the PulseAudio interface even if PulseAudio is not installed.

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                  • ehansin
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2016
                    • 699

                    #29
                    Maybe someone can help me out here on understanding, but I think I know that PipeWire has a compatibility layer (aka server or whatever) for PulseAudio and JACK that sits on top of PipeWire itself, is that correct? And let's say going forward, PipeWire is indeed *the* standard, does it also have a native API (or whatever) that can be programmed to/against to avoid any compatibility layers? Also, does all this stuff sit on top of ALSA regardless?

                    Just trying to sort out what I do and do not understand how this all works. Thanks!

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                    • Amano
                      Junior Member
                      • Nov 2017
                      • 39

                      #30
                      Low latency software will use the pro low-latency route, games will use the performance non-pro route. But it is pipewire for both.

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