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KDE Plasma 5.24 Adds An Overview Effect Inspired By GNOME's Activities Overview

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  • #31
    Originally posted by Hans Bull View Post
    Why imitate Gnome UI disasters?
    Great question.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by JackLilhammers View Post
      skeevy420

      That said I also think that nobody ever disputed that Gnome's overview is awesome.
      It was about time that Kde copied it. Long overdue, actually.
      If by "overview" you mean the way GNOME vomits icons all over the screen, it's a terrible, terrible design decision. With or without the "move mouse to the top of the screen to display," nonsense.

      That said, the new Application Menu in recent versions of KDE isn't great, either. Legacy Kickoff FTW.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by DKJones View Post

        If by "overview" you mean the way GNOME vomits icons all over the screen, it's a terrible, terrible design decision. With or without the "move mouse to the top of the screen to display," nonsense.

        That said, the new Application Menu in recent versions of KDE isn't great, either. Legacy Kickoff FTW.
        I mean the animation that presents all the open windows and the virtual desktops.
        You mean the apps grid. That comes straight from a mobile device and just sucks. Btw MacOS has the same thing, called Launchpad, and it sucks too.

        Personally I don't mind the new menu, but it's absolutely fine to prefer the old one.
        You can easily install it:
        https://www.debugpoint.com/2021/02/l...e-plasma-5-21/

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        • #34
          Originally posted by mirmirmir View Post

          overview came on gnome in 2011, same year mac got similar feature.

          of you ask me, development of gnome is open (anyone can see) but take longer to implement. Just like android 12 has quick power control which is similar to not yet implemented mockup on gnome. The concept itself already exist on gnome before android 12. But android got it implemented first.

          Also having top bar doesn't make gnome copy macos. You know CSD, gnome has it wayy before mac
          Exposé was first previewed on June 23, 2003, at the Apple Worldwide Developers Conference as a feature of the then forthcoming Mac OS X 10.3 Panther.
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_Control_(macOS)

          In macOS, AppKit applications use client-side decoration when using the NSWindow widget.
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Client...coration#macOS

          Availability: macOS 10.0+
          https://developer.apple.com/document...ppkit/nswindow

          On March 24, 2001, Apple released Mac OS X 10.0 (internally codenamed Cheetah).
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacOS_..._%22Cheetah%22

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          • #35
            Originally posted by fhek789 View Post

            It does open pretty fast!
            On HDD? On the first time?

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            • #36
              Originally posted by tildearrow View Post

              On HDD? On the first time?
              Yeah, on the first time it open pretty fast. I'm on a SSD but I don't think this matters really

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              • #37
                Originally posted by fhek789 View Post

                Yeah, on the first time it open pretty fast. I'm on a SSD but I don't think this matters really
                Yes it does matter. Plasma is rather slow at times on HDD (particularly KRunner which takes like 10 seconds to open so I have to wait that long when I type on the desktop to search...).

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by bug77 View Post
                  It's not an "effect inspired by Gnome", as Nate explains, it's almost half the Gnome shell implemented as an effect in Plasma! If that's not a testament to the power of Plasma, I don't know what is.
                  In fact GNOME Shell itself is a plugin for the Mutter compositor!

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Quackdoc View Post
                    I like it, but as is with everything, if it's not easy to setup, I don't care. make it look nice out of box when I enable it and all will be good.
                    There is no setup; it's an on-by-default thing.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by tildearrow View Post
                      Yes it does matter. Plasma is rather slow at times on HDD (particularly KRunner which takes like 10 seconds to open so I have to wait that long when I type on the desktop to search...).
                      Then don't use HDDs as system drive? Even eMMC in my 200€ notebook smokes any HDD when it comes to system responsiveness...

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