LibreOffice Lands Initial Code For Qt6 Toolkit Support

[Go_Vulkan]

Why should LIbreOffice look different? It looks like everyone expects office software to look like.

While "ugly" or "nice" is just a question of personal taste, my first and foremost concern is getting my work done. Have no problem with the user interface.

Just in 2020 there were over 17,000 code commits and people are saying "Nothing's changed!"
The list of improvements is MASSIVE and I can't wrap my mind around the people claiming nothing has changed... what do you think all of those commits have been for?

Nice to see that some people are still able to use facts instead of behaving like an immature child.

Many of these changes actually improved my daily work.

[alcalde]

When I use it, except minor changes here and here, I still see OOo. 10 years and it still mostly the exact same thing. Worst, some UI elements that were ugly 10 years ago are still here and still ugly today. Instead of abstracting the UI to support many libs, they should just redo it without abstraction, clean, for once and for all!

After 10 years of many commits as you say, the suite should look and feel VASTLY different and better than what it is today. I supported them when they forked and I feel so fooled today.

You have to turn on the new interface features.

https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2018/06/18/simplicity-and-flexibility-choose-the-right-libreoffice-interface-for-you/

Why should LIbreOffice look different? It looks like everyone expects office software to look like. The list of improvements is MASSIVE and I can't wrap my mind around the people claiming nothing has changed... what do you think all of those commits have been for? It's OpenOffice whose only commits nowadays are changes to the dictionary or language translations.

https://www.libreoffice.org/discover/libreoffice-vs-openoffice/

Just in 2020 there were over 17,000 code commits and people are saying "Nothing's changed!" That may be because you're one of the majority of people who only use about 1% of the features in any office product, so you don't notice all the changes. OOXML support, multithreaded support for calc, PDF support, Epub export... there have been a great deal of changes.

https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2020/02/19/10-great-libreoffice-only-features/

https://www.techrepublic.com/blog/10-things/10-big-improvements-in-libreoffice-35/

Just look at all the improvements in a single release....

https://www.ghacks.net/2020/08/05/libreoffice-7-0-is-now-available/

[danmcgrew]

When I use it, except minor changes here and here, I still see OOo. 10 years and it still mostly the exact same thing. Worst, some UI elements that were ugly 10 years ago are still here and still ugly today. Instead of abstracting the UI to support many libs, they should just redo it without abstraction, clean, for once and for all!

After 10 years of many commits as you say, the suite should look and feel VASTLY different and better than what it is today. I supported them when they forked and I feel so fooled today.

How does that saying go?...

"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."

...Only problem is that apparently most LO users are not equipped to realize---or admit to the fact of---how often they have been, and are continually being, not just fooled, but taken for fools.

[danmcgrew]

We don't need your fake "translations". Neither the highly aggressive ones that had to be deleted, nor this one.

What you really mean is, "I don't need..."
Here's a big, big suggestion, rocket scientist: don't read it / them.
And the proper word is "nor"; not "neither"; get some grammar lessons. Quickly. (They won't help with all those other, more serious problems, however.)
Try again; of this WE can all be certain.
Do better next time.

"One can well understand the honourable gentleman's desire to prattle on...he needs the practice badly."---Sir Winston Churchill

[rmfx]

What the heck are you talking about? The number of commits have been massive; it's OpenOffice where development has stalled. They did add a new optional UI, significant new features, better performance, and cleaned up the code base.

When I use it, except minor changes here and here, I still see OOo. 10 years and it still mostly the exact same thing. Worst, some UI elements that were ugly 10 years ago are still here and still ugly today. Instead of abstracting the UI to support many libs, they should just redo it without abstraction, clean, for once and for all!

After 10 years of many commits as you say, the suite should look and feel VASTLY different and better than what it is today. I supported them when they forked and I feel so fooled today.

[Go_Vulkan]

For the functions I really use in LibreOffice (meaning "more often") I define my own shortcuts. There is no faster way.

I have colleges who switched to LibO, who found MS Word "complicated" after some time. They once said the same about LibO, so I really think it only depends on what you are used to.

[Charlie68]

"optional new UI" is that a joke? The 7 options are just rearrangements of the same 1990s dated interface.

Just yesterday I was at a friend's house and I had to edit some documents, so he made me use Office on W10, I found it terribly inconvenient to use, maybe it's because I'm not used to it, but in my opinion it sucks, it seems designed for children of the asylum, they also charge for it ...

[Go_Vulkan]

We don't need your fake "translations". Neither the highly aggressive ones that had to be deleted, nor this one.

[danmcgrew]

I think, the sort of people who is constantly whining like this


just don't have a clue how big the task "New user interface" really is - for a software that is

• as old as the LibreOffice codebase
• as huge as LibreOffice
• runs on multiple operating systems

Moreover, you cannot just have any programmer accomplish this task. Apparently, the big companies who sponsor developers for LibreOffice have other priorities.

Anyway, we shouldn't waste our time with that. The article came with news about Qt6-Support evolving, which is good news!

Translation:
"Anyway, I'm going to TRY and totally change the subject because this is turning out badly for me..."

[Go_Vulkan]

But how is the GTK4 work coming along?

Have a look here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GTK4