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Originally posted by rabcor
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Ah I actually tried pipewire the other day, and it worked kinda well to be honest, I can see why this might become a pulseaudio replacement quite fast, it's ability to work as a drop-in replacement for pulse is most impressive too.
It's just...
It didn't do the one thing I wanted.
I hate pulse because I always have issues with it, it's either crackling audio, too much latency (even for just regular consumer use) or both. Often with a little tweaking I can mitigate it.
I've always hated pulse... So much that when it was still an option I just stuck with alsa and had a better experience for it, but nowadays too many applications rely on pulse to work and apulse just isn't reliable enough.
So the one thing I wanted, working audio with no crackling or latency issues. I got working audio. I got no latency issues too, but oh god the crackling was even worse than pulse!!
At least with the tsched=0 setting pulseaudio's crackling is reduced to 'almost never', but with pipewire the best I could get was 'significantly reduced but still too much for enjoyable sound'; and like with pulseaudio, if I try to use any 3rd party applications to enhance audio (like equalizers, pulseeffects/easyeffects), it all gets 10 times worse.
I just want good basic audio on linux with the option to use 3rd party equalizers or enhancement plugins without all the crackling and all the latency, why is this so much to ask?
Some people insist that audio on linux is the best thing ever, but I've had 4 different computers (admittedly all intel hd audio though) and I always have sound issues on linux, I have never not had sound issues on linux... Even when I was just using pure alsa I'd occasionally run into issues with dmixing or something... I also remember alsa didn't have any good equalizer options either, I mean it had some but they were not any better than what was available with pulse and would often cause some issue or other.
Anyhow I do recommend people give pipewire a try if they're interested, for an alpha product it's actualy in a surprisingly good state already.
It's just...
It didn't do the one thing I wanted.
I hate pulse because I always have issues with it, it's either crackling audio, too much latency (even for just regular consumer use) or both. Often with a little tweaking I can mitigate it.
I've always hated pulse... So much that when it was still an option I just stuck with alsa and had a better experience for it, but nowadays too many applications rely on pulse to work and apulse just isn't reliable enough.
So the one thing I wanted, working audio with no crackling or latency issues. I got working audio. I got no latency issues too, but oh god the crackling was even worse than pulse!!
At least with the tsched=0 setting pulseaudio's crackling is reduced to 'almost never', but with pipewire the best I could get was 'significantly reduced but still too much for enjoyable sound'; and like with pulseaudio, if I try to use any 3rd party applications to enhance audio (like equalizers, pulseeffects/easyeffects), it all gets 10 times worse.
I just want good basic audio on linux with the option to use 3rd party equalizers or enhancement plugins without all the crackling and all the latency, why is this so much to ask?
Some people insist that audio on linux is the best thing ever, but I've had 4 different computers (admittedly all intel hd audio though) and I always have sound issues on linux, I have never not had sound issues on linux... Even when I was just using pure alsa I'd occasionally run into issues with dmixing or something... I also remember alsa didn't have any good equalizer options either, I mean it had some but they were not any better than what was available with pulse and would often cause some issue or other.
Anyhow I do recommend people give pipewire a try if they're interested, for an alpha product it's actualy in a surprisingly good state already.
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