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  • lowlands
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    Originally posted by leech View Post
    There are various options for different certs. Not sure about the specific one you're talking about (I haven't used Thunderbird since before it was Thunderbird and was still part of the Mozilla Suite...
    I'm not sure what you mean with various options. Last time I tried I imported a CA & client certificate and setup my account. When Evolution was asked by the server to provide a client certificate nothing happened and the connection failed. So Evolution does not respond to a server's request to authenticate itself with it's client certificate.

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  • Mez'
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    Originally posted by lowlands View Post
    About SMS usage, I'll take your word for it since I don't know anyone who uses iMessage. It's all WhatsApp around me.
    Except some older people who barely got used to SMS and are slowly just moving on to messaging apps, most people are on whatsapp these days, except a minority from a specific city that for some reason all use (Facebook) Messenger. But the SMS days are long gone indeed.

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  • leech
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    Originally posted by lowlands View Post

    The one thing that keeps me from using Evolution is: no support for client certficicate authentication. So Evolution contacts the server, the server requests a client certificate from Evolution, Evolution sends back it's client certificate, the server verifies Evolution's certificate and if all is ok then allows access to IMAP etc. Last time I tried, Geary also does not support it. This works fine in Thunderbird so I'll stick to that.
    There are various options for different certs. Not sure about the specific one you're talking about (I haven't used Thunderbird since before it was Thunderbird and was still part of the Mozilla Suite...

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  • leech
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    Originally posted by bple2137 View Post

    Once I've lost ~2Hrs trying to get it working, but I had severe issues with calendar integration, so I gave up. Evolution works really well, though.
    Yeah, I think the EWS module from what I had found the last time I tried (a few years ago at this point, admittedly) it wasn't compiled into any distribution yet, and trying to get it to compile and work by hand met with resistance, so back to Evolution I went! I honestly wish Evolution would have a current port maintained for Windows, I'd replace Outlook in a heartbeat.

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  • lowlands
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    Originally posted by uid313 View Post

    But I was told that WhatsApp uses end-to-end encryption.

    Lots of people use SMS and MMS these days, when people who use Apple iMessage send something to a non-Apple device it falls back to SMS and MMS.

    Matrix is nice, but its more for nerds though. You can use the Element app for that.
    Facebook _says_ WhatsApp uses end-to-end encryption but it's facebook and AFAIK there is no proof they can't or don't read messages.

    About SMS usage, I'll take your word for it since I don't know anyone who uses iMessage. It's all WhatsApp around me.

    I don't think that Matrix is for nerds. In Europe a bunch of large government organizations have switched to Matrix so I guess they would disagree too.

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  • uid313
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    Originally posted by lowlands View Post

    Google has been pushing RCS for a while now and RCS, because Google, is an attempt to get some of that nice personal identifiable information that Whatsapp now collects by the zillions. So I'd rather it dies sooner than later. FWIW I don't know anyone who uses SMS or MMS these days. Matrix integration would be great though.
    But I was told that WhatsApp uses end-to-end encryption.

    Lots of people use SMS and MMS these days, when people who use Apple iMessage send something to a non-Apple device it falls back to SMS and MMS.

    Matrix is nice, but its more for nerds though. You can use the Element app for that.

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  • lowlands
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    Originally posted by uid313 View Post
    Imagine if it had support for RCS (the successor to SMS and MMS) too.
    Google has been pushing RCS for a while now and RCS, because Google, is an attempt to get some of that nice personal identifiable information that Whatsapp now collects by the zillions. So I'd rather it dies sooner than later. FWIW I don't know anyone who uses SMS or MMS these days. Matrix integration would be great though.

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  • lowlands
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    Originally posted by leech View Post
    Well it kind of seems to me like Gnome is trying to split up Evolution, but it's slow going. Geary for email, Calendar for... well Calendar.

    But Evolution is still the only free email client that has the equivalent to Outlook features and will work with Exchange / Office365 (unless Kmail finally made that improvement, but I doubt it, email clients are not 'glorious'. Hell even Microsoft can't be bothered to not make Outlook the worse software I've ever used.)
    The one thing that keeps me from using Evolution is: no support for client certficicate authentication. So Evolution contacts the server, the server requests a client certificate from Evolution, Evolution sends back it's client certificate, the server verifies Evolution's certificate and if all is ok then allows access to IMAP etc. Last time I tried, Geary also does not support it. This works fine in Thunderbird so I'll stick to that.

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  • lowlands
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    Originally posted by microcode View Post
    GNOME Calls seems like a good step. Most of the current SIP clients are basically unusable, on most platforms. I end up using the BareSIP CLI. Having LTE/GSM calls (oFono) and SIP calls through the same interface would be an upgrade over both iOS and Android, on GNOME-based phones.
    Yeah I like it too and this is the first time I heard about it. I was looking for a mature VoIP Linux GUI client with business-like features the other day and AFAICT there is only one: Zoiper Pro. A built-in VoIP client in GNOME with Zoiper's features would be pretty cool.

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  • osw89
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    Originally posted by caligula View Post
    such wow 3,5 years later
    You should be thankful they didn't just ignore it for 17 years like a particular issue.

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