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Originally posted by domih View PostIf for instance you are a Teams user, you're reading a thread, ...
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Originally posted by Alexmitter View Post
Your whole post boils down to "I do not want to learn or even try something new, everything has to stay exactly as it was" and "it was all better in the past".
Personally, I enjoy learning new ways and I've adopted many new habits along the years. But... They must bring an added value to my workflow, otherwise they are dismissed in favor of the slightly older ways (not necessarily old).
Learning is one thing that you are confusing with adopting. Indeed, adopting new ways for the sake of it being new is properly idiotic. When learned, those new ways have to serve a workflow purpose to get adoption and replace fruitfully some old or older ways. We're not gulping whatever is thrown at us like yes men Gnome diehard fans have a tendency to do.
It's up to us to cherry pick which UI behaviors have actual value. It can also mean a big mix of old, less old, recent and shiny new paradigms, as long as that's what works for you in the most efficient way.
It's not just self-entitled modern Vs mocked old paradigms and people who do not want to learn while others do. It's such a basic view of things, it feels like talking to a child.Last edited by Mez'; 19 August 2021, 06:33 AM.
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Originally posted by ajparag View PostThe developers should focus on more critical problems then going backwards to keep alive a legacy environment. Linux has ~2.5% market share. Out of that hardly a significant number will be using MATE desktop. If they can use these resources in improving the user experience in general by contributing to gtk/kde plasma development or wayland itself that would be commendable.
Following your reasoning, Linux desktop market share is ~2% so the developers should stop working on that, same for BSD... And Mozilla devs should abandon their products and help improving UX by contributing to Chromium/Blink. Which basically means supporting monopolies and abandonning diversity.
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Originally posted by jacob View PostAre they developing their own compositor or using an existing one?
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Originally posted by Alexmitter View Post
Your whole post boils down to "I do not want to learn or even try something new, everything has to stay exactly as it was" and "it was all better in the past".
Basically having to repeat all the horrible UI sins committed by the past forever because some people have already gotten them into muscle memory and now a better solution is not "discoverable" to them without "RTFM". The audacity.
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Originally posted by Turbine View PostWhy is Mate still even a thing. 🤔
The fact that the modern Gnome seems both unnecessarily bloated in some ways and at the same time oddly restrictive of normal user interaction, and that it is developed by a group who appears to be overly busy with their partisan political campaigns is probably turning off some users and creating a void that desktops like Mate are filling.
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Originally posted by ajparag View PostThe developers should focus on more critical problems then going backwards to keep alive a legacy environment.
Personally I won't use any other DE. Plenty of UI metaphors have been around for a very long time. Take the steering wheel and pedals in your car for example. As it was 100 years ago. Does the technology exist to drive a real car using a PS4 controller? Of course. Or using a touch screen? Sure. How about driving your car using WASD keyboard buttons? Yup. But manufacturers stick with the steering wheel and pedals. Why? Because it works well, and people are proficient with it. Done. No need to re-invent the wheel. MATE is similar. MATE uses traditional desktop metaphors that are familiar and efficient. But MATE does so with the latest technologies. Like a steering wheel in a modern car, that has buttons on it, is heated in winter, and leather wrapped for comfort. But it's still a wheel. KDE/GNOME3 demand you drive to work using three finger swipe to accelerate and two finger pinch for brakes; never mind that it's awkward and clunky, it's NEW!! so it must be better.
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