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  • #51
    That's the problem with y'all, ElectricPrism

    Bunch of damn whiners and people who expect everything to be handed to them.

    Go do something about it instead of complaining on Phoronix, tough guy. "Check my impulsiveness" The nerve on this dude.

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    • #52
      tomas
      That post is not a critique of Gnome, at all. It was just meant to show a little data about how much Red Hat contributes to the project.
      The point is that a company whose source of revenue are cloud services and support for a server operating system is hardly going to focus its efforts on the desktop side of things.
      This doesn't mean that Gnome can be broken, because it can't.
      The problem is that it just need to be enough for Red Hat's server use case.

      That's not the case for Ubuntu and PopOS that must ship with a few extensions to make it barely acceptable for a more typical desktop user.
      And if their target user worked with images that wouldn't be enough because Nautilus and the file chooser are the worst at dealing with folders with lots of pictures

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      • #53
        Originally posted by ElectricPrism View Post
        Originally posted byfinalzone
        Press space bar to preview a selected .jpg or .png.

        Thanks, that sounds like it offers some improvement.
        You talked all that nonsense, did all those replies with breakdowns of each sentence, but didn't know that spacebar previews an image? That works on any OS, noob. Do better next time.

        I provide way more information/context/everything on Phoronix better than you do, ElectricPrism. You provide nothing. Never forget that.

        edit: Absolutely f'n nothing. Michael please DO NOT censor posts anymore. That's not a way to treat a lifetime phoronix subscriber who only tries to help people on here. This worthless f*ck ElectricPrism did nothing except whine and expect praise, and should not be rewarded for that bullshit. He should be given no credit. F'n prick really set me off this morning. I'm in California too. Come see me.
        Last edited by perpetually high; 20 July 2021, 09:25 AM.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by tomas View Post

          You are free to use any other desktop environment available on Linux. Why should they listen to you? Just because you are a user and that is what you would like to see? They don't agree with your vision. They are free to go in their own direction, and you are free to use the result of their labor or not. Thinking that they should listen to you and other users and do what you tell them will only get you frustrated and angry. Now, the result of them not doing what you think is necessary in Gnome may lead to a majority of users deciding to use some other desktop environment on Linux, like KDE Plasma or Cinnamon or Mate or.... etc. But again, the Gnome Project are free to persue their vision and you are free to choose something else, even choose some other operating system entirely.
          They don't have to follow any single user that has a complaint, but they should "listen" to their users as a whole, and they'd have a very powerful tool to do that: anonymous opt-in telemetry of installed extesions
          What better way to know which features should be embedded than to measure those really used by your users?

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          • #55
            JackLilhammers

            Then they would also need a way to measure all users that do not use any extensions at all. That just go with the defaults.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by tomas View Post
              JackLilhammers

              Then they would also need a way to measure all users that do not use any extensions at all. That just go with the defaults.
              This telemetry report could be a json with just a system uuid and a list of the installed extensions. An empty list means defaults

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              • #57
                Originally posted by jacob View Post
                2) implement a compositor
                They could just use wayfire or kwinft

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                • #58
                  I really like the direction GNOME is going. They should go even harder and never look back. It's working

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                  • #59
                    Really there's no reason to care about Gnome that much it is just a question of months before IBM closes the sinks for anything related with the Gnome Project.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by JackLilhammers View Post
                      tomas
                      That post is not a critique of Gnome, at all. It was just meant to show a little data about how much Red Hat contributes to the project.
                      It does contribute a lot.

                      However a lot of future Gnome design discussions are taking place in the libadwaita space - an attempt at creating a utility library for the gnome HIG as it develops and adapts. there are red hatters involved, but the most prolific contributors here are from elsewhere. As others use the library, their input and impact will be amplified within the gnome ecosystem.

                      So while numbers are mostl gnome, impact can be measured in different ways, from contributions to the toolkit (where AFAIK a lot of developers over the years have disapeared into the googlesphere) to utility libtaries to the shell, to actual apps etc.

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