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  • #61
    Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
    Part of what's going on is that Wayland was designed by a bunch of burnt out X developers who were sick and tired of all the complicated stuff being in X and having very few resources devoted their way to fixing them.

    So they decided to make Wayland handle only the most basic stuff they could get away with, and throw all the complicated code over to the compositor side of things.

    It shouldn't be surprising, then, that Mutter/Kwin/etc. are struggling to get things working since they now have all that burden thrown on them.
    I'm also half convinced their mature codebase didn't help with porting a new display protocol. Something like phoc (wlroots based) from Purism is around 2k lines of code and from quick testing (couple of months) seems to have stellar performance and perfect(?) wayland compatibility.

    The main problem from wlroots seems to be API breaks between each versions. Can't wait for it to stabilize so production compositors can start using it because calling kwin's timing based compositing bad would be an understatement.

    To be clear, if they were to fix it (maybe with QT6 vulkan?), KDE would probably border on the line of perfection.

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    • #62
      I say with every release I'm looking forward to trying the Wayland session then something always has me back on X11. Not even that long ago it was the whole session sometimes crashing when opening a second web browser window. Right now it's context menus being closed by tooltips (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=417939). At least there is progress being made.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by ResponseWriter View Post
        I say with every release I'm looking forward to trying the Wayland session then something always has me back on X11. Not even that long ago it was the whole session sometimes crashing when opening a second web browser window. Right now it's context menus being closed by tooltips (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=417939). At least there is progress being made.
        A workaround is to just disable the preview popup of the taskbar.

        In most cases I don't need it anyway: it's too small to recognize anything meaningful, large enough to be in the way and its popping up distracts me

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        • #64
          Originally posted by reba View Post

          A workaround is to just disable the preview popup of the taskbar.

          In most cases I don't need it anyway: it's too small to recognize anything meaningful, large enough to be in the way and its popping up distracts me
          That's only a partial fix since it also happens with system tray icons that display a tooltip.

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