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Last edited by markus40; 15 May 2021, 01:10 PM.
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Originally posted by Qaridarium
i think it just need time. just wait another 2 years and all your negativity on wayland will be gone
Some of his arguments make no sense, like the rasterization of pixels one (does he really want full UI toolkit and primitives on Wayland?!).
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Originally posted by markus40 View PostPlus putting in autoconfiguration. Let me repeat this, putting in auto-configuration. You know, it was 2004 already by then, 20 years from the beginning of X11. XFree is from 1992, 12 years earlier and no autoconfigure worth mentioning.
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Originally posted by Termy View Post
if you don't see a massive improvement in the past 3 years, then maybe you should rethink your approach to software
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Part of what's going on is that Wayland was designed by a bunch of burnt out X developers who were sick and tired of all the complicated stuff being in X and having very few resources devoted their way to fixing them.
So they decided to make Wayland handle only the most basic stuff they could get away with, and throw all the complicated code over to the compositor side of things.
It shouldn't be surprising, then, that Mutter/Kwin/etc. are struggling to get things working since they now have all that burden thrown on them.
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Originally posted by smitty3268 View PostPart of what's going on is that Wayland was designed by a bunch of burnt out X developers who were sick and tired of all the complicated stuff being in X and having very few resources devoted their way to fixing them.
So they decided to make Wayland handle only the most basic stuff they could get away with, and throw all the complicated code over to the compositor side of things.
It shouldn't be surprising, then, that Mutter/Kwin/etc. are struggling to get things working since they now have all that burden thrown on them.
The main problem from wlroots seems to be API breaks between each versions. Can't wait for it to stabilize so production compositors can start using it because calling kwin's timing based compositing bad would be an understatement.
To be clear, if they were to fix it (maybe with QT6 vulkan?), KDE would probably border on the line of perfection.
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I say with every release I'm looking forward to trying the Wayland session then something always has me back on X11. Not even that long ago it was the whole session sometimes crashing when opening a second web browser window. Right now it's context menus being closed by tooltips (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=417939). At least there is progress being made.
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Originally posted by ResponseWriter View PostI say with every release I'm looking forward to trying the Wayland session then something always has me back on X11. Not even that long ago it was the whole session sometimes crashing when opening a second web browser window. Right now it's context menus being closed by tooltips (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=417939). At least there is progress being made.
In most cases I don't need it anyway: it's too small to recognize anything meaningful, large enough to be in the way and its popping up distracts me
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Originally posted by reba View Post
A workaround is to just disable the preview popup of the taskbar.
In most cases I don't need it anyway: it's too small to recognize anything meaningful, large enough to be in the way and its popping up distracts me
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