LibreOffice Begins Landing GTK4 Support Code

[Vistaus]

That's a big initial commit. Were there so many incompatible changes between gtk3 and gtk4? Or is it just an unfortunate coincidence where LibreOffice used those features that were changed between gtk3 and gtk4?

Except for the new scene renderer and hardware-accelerated apps support, the changes weren't major. In fact, you can even semi-automate porting from GTK3 to 4: https://github.com/baedert/autoport

[Vistaus]

This should be solved by https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-..._requests/3393 when merged.

That either won't get merged or won't solve the issue, 'cause in the bug report Spike29 linked, Mathias Clasen makes it very clear that there's nothing to fix. And he says the exact same thing in the MR you linked.

[Hi-Angel]

That either won't get merged or won't solve the issue, 'cause in the bug report Spike29 linked, Mathias Clasen makes it very clear that there's nothing to fix.

I don't get what makes Mathias say that. When I look at screenshots, the new rendering is clearly worse, and now I join the peoples who would really like to slow down GTK4 adoption because the less apps use it, the better user experience would be, at least for now (and if the issue is "not a bug", then really forever).

[gsedej]

I hope they fix context menu icons. Its so hard to enable them. Nautlius and other simple apps might not need context menu icons, but big office suite does!

[Alexmitter]

I would like to see better integration with KDE Plasma !

There is the Qt5 flavor of Libre Office, to improve that is in the hands of those who want Libre Office running on a proprietary sold toolkit.

[reba]

To be honest I think both font renderings in the screenshots of the merge request look horrifying and blurry, like something with hinting is broken.

Strokes show different thickness to other characters ("D" vs. "m", "i" vs. small L "l") and are inconsistent for the same character (small L, etc.).

It's highly irritating and terrible to read and anything but a calm text block.

[Alexmitter]

I don't get what makes Mathias say that. When I look at screenshots, the new rendering is clearly worse, and now I join the peoples who would really like to slow down GTK4 adoption because the less apps use it, the better user experience would be, at least for now (and if the issue is "not a bug", then really forever).

The screenshots look a lot worse then what I can reproduce on my machines. It seems to depend a lot on what your distro sets for font rendering settings as explained in the issue.
It does not look any worse on either my two workstations running Fedora 34 nor my Pinephone running mobian nor my notebook.

Anyways, I am looking forward to this GL based proper font rendering solution as seen here: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-..._requests/3393

[Azrael5]

There is the Qt5 flavor of Libre Office, to improve that is in the hands of those who want Libre Office running on a proprietary sold toolkit.

Libreoffice works via Qt or GTK3 on Kde?

[birdie]

To be honest I think both font renderings in the screenshots of the merge request look horrifying and blurry, like something with hinting is broken.

Strokes show different thickness to other characters ("D" vs. "m", "i" vs. small L "l") and are inconsistent for the same character (small L, etc.).

It's highly irritating and terrible to read and anything but a calm text block.

Quite agree. In fact absolute most Linux users around have horrible font rendering. I don't know how they work with their computers without screaming in pain all the time.

[kpedersen]

Great!

I hope this can make for a better LibreOffice experience that feels more modern and fun.

Going to be honest. "Modern" and "Fun" are not two key requirements I had in mind for a word processor!